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New It's the killer, isn't it?
I didn't want to know.
I was asking Box for his opinion based in that magical line in the sand and didn't want that focus. Yet.

Ok Box, from your perspective, various pieces of the body are up for grabs at that magical moment, and none of them are before then.

Since time is of these essence, and the previous answer means nothing in the context of when the decision must be made, please give a bit more.

What is death? I'm going to run with some assumptions I have of you. You believe in some type of afterlife, you believe in the concept of the spirit (not going to define that one) leaving the body, and going somewhere. Right?

You also believe in the possibility of people in near death experiences leaving the body, looking down, watching, etc. Right?

At the moment the person (note that the person is no longer defined as the body, but the leaving spirit), is that person dead? Not "near dead", but dead. Or is it some other aspect?
New death is not defined by the dead, but the living
I remember I had a conversation with a friend about taking a bad stroke and being semi vegetative but with a non working body, I would prefer a pillow to the face, my bud wanted the veg fed and cared for until decomposition was well set in. Its not easily defineable,
     regulatory tsar, "Sate owns you organs" - (boxley) - (21)
         WTF? - (malraux) - (7)
             full context - (boxley) - (6)
                 The full full context. - (Another Scott) - (1)
                     Re: The full full context. Perfect examples - (boxley)
                 No, that is *not* how it reads - (drook) - (2)
                     Re: No, that is *not* how it reads - (mvitale) - (1)
                         Thanks -NT - (drook)
                 Uh, no. - (malraux)
         Oh, BS - (crazy) - (10)
             No response I see - (crazy)
             Didnt know you really wanted an answer - (boxley) - (8)
                 Nice try - (crazy) - (7)
                     okay, keep him hooked up until he passes by himself - (boxley) - (6)
                         Hmm - (crazy) - (1)
                             well, some places make soup - (boxley)
                         Define "death" - (pwhysall) - (3)
                             Re: Define "death" - (boxley)
                             It's the killer, isn't it? - (crazy) - (1)
                                 death is not defined by the dead, but the living - (boxley)
         Sloppy even for you - (Silverlock) - (1)
             eyes are going south -NT - (boxley)

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