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New so a much smaller population making less money
to support a much larger percentage of the population to the same lifestyle that the working get?
hmm, with those parameters it makes more sense to be a non worker, the rent food and bennies are the same but you get to sleep in
somehow I dont think that is going to work
Housing forclosures are going up but rental vacancies are also going up. Not good
New For a while
I'd expect more people to be living together, multiple generations in a household, just like the old days. That reduces cost of living for these groups. That will drive down housing prices as demand remains soft, as well as rental requirements.

But that other comment was classic red-herring. Why should I work if these people who are not working get these benefits that I am paying for, and they live as good as me.

Well, they won't. Not as good as you box, because you are well qualified to make far more than these people, and you know it. This issue is the part of the population that barely qualifies for a "joe-job", and the fact that most of them are going away based on the current scenarios of industrial implosion.

What will there decision process be? Try to get the government to pay for their life, or get a job that barely allows them to get more than they'd get anyway?

Which I say is also bullshit. You have visions of a sub-class of people living off of you, and this makes you annoyed. I have no idea how that will play out, and what requirements there might be to get benefits, or if a 70s style welfare state is coming back. I guess it is possible.

The father of my grandson would do this. Or at least he'd try. He's a worst case stereotype. Which means I accept that you have a powerful emotional argument. Emotional arguments are worthless, except to and from true believers.

But the next time you are making a standing rib roast (yum), enjoying your multiple houses (you just bought one for the kid, right? Cool), take a moment to think about that blameless kid standing outside the closed emergency room. There are many scenarios that come into mind, and they simply don't matter. The room is closed. So, do you fund the hospital or preventative care? Or do you ignore it until it goes away.

New not really kid used his own money for the house
and standing rib roast, a monthly thing is now twice yearly. Yeah I make but barely. Still shop at goodwill and food depot, IGA etc. without that I couldnt afford anything else

where is the closed emergency room? the ones around here are standing room only and only a few have funds to pay. The working folks pay for the rest. Walk in any emergency room. They HAVE to treat you regardless. Lets change that. Unless you are in immediate need of crisis medical help you get steered to the equally long but cheaper line at the county health clinic,

My one brother already has his daughter and husband plus gran moved in. More are angling for the spots on the living room floor.

A subclass of people is when you have workers thrust into minimum wage from stimulous money grants that specify davis bacon but the non profs want more for administrative salaries so are fighting to get the laws changed.

Greed of the mid level gummint apparatchiks is just as high an the mbas of wall street no different.

I dont resent, I dislike true believers of all stripes whether its the mullahs, peta or obamaites. They all have one thing in common,
let us prey
(thanx ash)

     good question - (boxley) - (46)
         Not his problem. - (beepster) - (45)
             That's what Dubya did -NT - (lincoln) - (44)
                 and that makes it ok. - (beepster) - (43)
                     No, it means certain people don't get to make that argument - (drook) - (3)
                         Re: No, it means certain people don't get to make that argum - (beepster) - (2)
                             Context matters. - (Another Scott) - (1)
                                 Get current numbers. - (beepster)
                     It may be. It may not. - (crazy) - (26)
                         ah, the magik surplus that never existed - (boxley) - (23)
                             Not to you - (crazy) - (16)
                                 if you remove payroll taxes collected - (boxley) - (1)
                                     No gridlock for me - (crazy)
                                 Hmmmm - (beepster) - (13)
                                     they deserve a shot - (boxley) - (6)
                                         "he is trying and failing" - (crazy) - (5)
                                             if you can get 3-1 or better patriots - (boxley) - (4)
                                                 6%? Decades? Maybe - (crazy) - (3)
                                                     so a much smaller population making less money - (boxley) - (2)
                                                         For a while - (crazy) - (1)
                                                             not really kid used his own money for the house - (boxley)
                                     So more people support what he is doing than voted for him? - (crazy) - (5)
                                         why wait - (boxley) - (4)
                                             I simply responded to Beep's numbers - (crazy) - (1)
                                                 Think you went a bit further than that... - (beepster)
                                             Actually, the incoming old farts . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (1)
                                                 Yay. Good point. Thanks. -NT - (crazy)
                             Depends on how you look at it. - (Another Scott) - (5)
                                 those fugures are counting soc and med remittances - (boxley) - (4)
                                     No, they're not. - (Another Scott) - (3)
                                         from your link - (boxley) - (2)
                                             That's not a contradiction to there being a surplus. - (Another Scott) - (1)
                                                 I disagree but you knew that :-) -NT - (boxley)
                         Lots of stuff there. I'll attack it later today. :-) -NT - (Another Scott)
                         I can't read their minds. - (Another Scott)
                     And Beep's plan is/was? - (Another Scott) - (11)
                         1.2T - (beepster) - (10)
                             You need to write more words. - (Another Scott) - (6)
                                 20s and 30s - (beepster) - (3)
                                     I guess you weren't kidding. - (Another Scott) - (2)
                                         required reading, "catch 22" then come back - (boxley)
                                         Jobs Jobs Jobs Jobs - (beepster)
                                 Question on those numbers - (drook) - (1)
                                     Let's see... - (Another Scott)
                             Krugman: The Stimulus Trap. - (Another Scott) - (2)
                                 Re: Krugman: He is still an idiot - (boxley) - (1)
                                     Agreed - (beepster)

And don't forget the fire ants.
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