Re: had a friend discussing hi end cameras

Post #308,746 by brian 5/15/09 9:40:54 AM Reply	Re: had a friend discussing hi end cameras thanks guys for your imput, i am not dead set on nikon so i will concider canon if i can find a great price. i was looking at d300 but i can get a d700x at the same price and was just need some guidance and some pro input. thanks
Post #308,767 by folkert 5/15/09 6:26:27 PM Reply	Unless you are planning on... getting paid for you photos daily to pay for your habit... Or you are a SERIOUS photographer, anything above 10MP is insane. NEF images are a minimum of 10MB on my D80. D700 at 12MP full frame and D3 at 24MP is just ludicrous. Take it easy on yourself and Buy a D90 and with the money saved buy a couple more lens... Get a lens like I got: 18-200 Its a great all around lens and you can get awesome pics with it. If you MUST have expensive camera bodies, make sure you weigh the difference between a Nikon with the VR in the Lense vs VR in the camera body like in Canon. Canon bodies can be more expensive, but the lenses are cheaper and tele-converters seem to work better with VR also. All in all, Nikon does have some issues with Reds in the below 10MP cameras. I've had good luck with my D80 as of late. I bought it used with only 7500 clicks on it in great shape. Look in the Used market, you'll be very suprised to find what you are looking for, because of first time buyers googly eyes and getting burntout at not being able to use the camera fully and then going back to a point and shoot.
Post #308,769 by Another Scott 5/15/09 7:05:11 PM Reply	On lenses. Years ago I got a Sigma 28-200 zoom lens for my Canon EOS Elan film camera. It seemed to be a great deal for about $200, but I soon came to realize that TANSTAAFL. It was slow, and one can't simply increase the film ISO and expect the same results as a fast lens. :-( So, I got a $200 flash for it. But, of course, flash is only good for things that are close. And it's mainly been in a drawer since then. :-/ That was one of the things that turned me off about SLRs. You can take great pictures with them, but if you need to drag around a camera bag full of stuff to have the right lenses and the right lighting, then in practice it's going to sit in a drawer most of the time. I learned that I don't have the need for anything fancier than a good digital point-and-shoot, at least right now. If I get back into the SLR game, I'm going to make sure that I get fast lenses. At least above entry-level... But $1200 for a Canon f/2.8 24-70 mm lens makes it likely that it'll be a long time... http://www.bhphotovi...304&is=USA&si=rev Yikes! Cheers, Scott.
Post #308,770 by scoenye 5/15/09 7:53:08 PM Reply	In that case, take a look at a Canon 5D Mk I Full frame, just like the 700Dx. It was the top of the sub pro segment. Just got supplanted by the Mk II, so it should be possible to make a deal somewhere.
Post #308,786 by static 5/16/09 7:25:34 AM Reply	Beware of snobbery. I sort of belong to a camera club and on the last excursion day I went on, I was the only one who didn't have an SLR. But I can still take great pictures :-). In fact, I used to take great pictures with a Nikon F60 - and that was bargain basement as far as a film SLR camera goes. Regarding pictue size, 5MP will print A4 great and will go to A3 without a problem. My Fujifilm S9500's native resolution is 9MP, but I turn it down to 5. Sure, it's a bit quirky, but all cameras are. It isn't an SLR, but it functions a lot like one. I used to have a D70, and whilst it was capable, it was just a bit too big a lot of the time. The S9500 is smaller. If you've never had a camera system before, you don't need to rush into it. Start small, like a D40 with a fairly general-purpose telephoto lens, like 18-120. You may not feel it's limitations for a long time, if ever. Changing lenses often is a bit of an acquired taste and not all photographers get used to it. Wade. "Ah -- I take it the doorbell doesn't work?"
Post #308,789 by folkert 5/16/09 9:48:26 AM Reply	I only have two lenses. and 18-55 and an 18-200 (both "DX" frame) The are decently fast for the cost. One overlaps the other. The 18-55(1) is small and light and does most things well. The 18-200(2) has some draw backs at the "18" end as well as the "200" end... VERY SLIGHT vignette at long lengths (196-200) and a bit of "fish-eye effect" at 18-22 length. I carry two two bags, one for the camera and two lenses, one for my tripod and monopod. I've got Manfrotto heads on both my tripod and monopod with the "RC2" quick release setup for the camera. I have a 222 joystick(3) on the tripod for ease of positioning and a 322RC2(4) on the monopod for more control of the camera. My Tripod is the previous generation of the 055XPRO(5) "Rapid" Pro Tripod (with the 222 joystick on it), very nice and adjustable. My monopod(6) is a $30 Promaster with the 322RC2 on it). I have a D80(7) body and the bags I have are Promaster bags, one bag(8) for the Camera and lenses, one bag(9) for the tripod, monopod and heads. All in all, I got the important parts used and everything else at a great deal. I've spent probably in total (including extra batteries and the alternate power adapter and memory cards and various other pieces) about $1800 and I am VERY happy. (1) http://www.nikonusa....F3.5-5.6G-VR.html (2) http://www.nikonusa....5-5.6G-IF-ED.html (3) http://www.manfrotto...ache/off/pid/2311 (4) http://www.manfrotto...ache/off/pid/2319 (5) http://www.manfrotto...che/off/pid/14791 (6) http://www.promaster...PROD&product=7080 (7) http://www.nikonusa....LR/25412/D80.html (8) http://www.promaster...PROD&product=6027 (9) http://www.promaster...3001&product=1071

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