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Post #306,028
by malraux
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3/23/09 8:42:14 AM
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New Adding to that:
If anyone can tell me how to map Command to Alt, but only in a Terminal, I would be forever obliged.

Emacs using the Option key is a pain in the ass.
Regards,
-scott
Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson.
Post #306,029
by folkert
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3/23/09 9:09:44 AM
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New Significantly...
This single biggest reason I don't use OSX for my primary machine.

Remapping Keys only seems to work globally... and therefore "breaks everything else"* when you configure it to work in a terminal for you.

There is also another key set (home-end) that do not work as expected for me and seems to "break everything else"* when I re-define the keymap.



* "break everything else" == complaints from the female majority of the house hold that things aren't working as expected and is a PITA to change behavior.
Post #306,084
by malraux
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3/23/09 11:03:00 PM
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New Greg... get iTerm
Then do this:

1) Run the program, then exit.
2) cd ~/Library/Preferences
3) cp net.sourceforge.iTerm.plist net.sourceforge.iTerm.plist.bak
4) plutil -convert xml1 net.sourceforge.iTerm.plist
5) edit the plist file, and find this section:

<key>Global Profile</key>
<string>Yes</string>
<key>Key Mappings</key>
<dict>

6) Insert the following after the <dict> (I wrote this with an Emacs macro after doing the first three by hand in the keyboard profile editor...) :

<key>0x61-0x100000</key>
<dict>
<key>Action</key>
<integer>10</integer>
<key>Priority</key>
<true/>
<key>Text</key>
<string>a</string>
</dict>
<key>0x62-0x100000</key>
<dict>
<key>Action</key>
<integer>10</integer>
<key>Priority</key>
<true/>
<key>Text</key>
<string>b</string>
</dict>
<key>0x63-0x100000</key>
<dict>
<key>Action</key>
<integer>10</integer>
<key>Priority</key>
<true/>
<key>Text</key>
<string>c</string>
</dict>
<key>0x64-0x100000</key>
<dict>
<key>Action</key>
<integer>10</integer>
<key>Priority</key>
<true/>
<key>Text</key>
<string>d</string>
</dict>
<key>0x65-0x100000</key>
<dict>
<key>Action</key>
<integer>10</integer>
<key>Priority</key>
<true/>
<key>Text</key>
<string>e</string>
</dict>
<key>0x66-0x100000</key>
<dict>
<key>Action</key>
<integer>10</integer>
<key>Priority</key>
<true/>
<key>Text</key>
<string>f</string>
</dict>
<key>0x67-0x100000</key>
<dict>
<key>Action</key>
<integer>10</integer>
<key>Priority</key>
<true/>
<key>Text</key>
<string>g</string>
</dict>
<key>0x68-0x100000</key>
<dict>
<key>Action</key>
<integer>10</integer>
<key>Priority</key>
<true/>
<key>Text</key>
<string>h</string>
</dict>
<key>0x69-0x100000</key>
<dict>
<key>Action</key>
<integer>10</integer>
<key>Priority</key>
<true/>
<key>Text</key>
<string>i</string>
</dict>
<key>0x6A-0x100000</key>
<dict>
<key>Action</key>
<integer>10</integer>
<key>Priority</key>
<true/>
<key>Text</key>
<string>j</string>
</dict>
<key>0x6B-0x100000</key>
<dict>
<key>Action</key>
<integer>10</integer>
<key>Priority</key>
<true/>
<key>Text</key>
<string>k</string>
</dict>
<key>0x6C-0x100000</key>
<dict>
<key>Action</key>
<integer>10</integer>
<key>Priority</key>
<true/>
<key>Text</key>
<string>l</string>
</dict>
<key>0x6D-0x100000</key>
<dict>
<key>Action</key>
<integer>10</integer>
<key>Priority</key>
<true/>
<key>Text</key>
<string>m</string>
</dict>
<key>0x6E-0x100000</key>
<dict>
<key>Action</key>
<integer>10</integer>
<key>Priority</key>
<true/>
<key>Text</key>
<string>n</string>
</dict>
<key>0x6F-0x100000</key>
<dict>
<key>Action</key>
<integer>10</integer>
<key>Priority</key>
<true/>
<key>Text</key>
<string>o</string>
</dict>
<key>0x70-0x100000</key>
<dict>
<key>Action</key>
<integer>10</integer>
<key>Priority</key>
<true/>
<key>Text</key>
<string>p</string>
</dict>
<key>0x71-0x100000</key>
<dict>
<key>Action</key>
<integer>10</integer>
<key>Priority</key>
<true/>
<key>Text</key>
<string>q</string>
</dict>
<key>0x72-0x100000</key>
<dict>
<key>Action</key>
<integer>10</integer>
<key>Priority</key>
<true/>
<key>Text</key>
<string>r</string>
</dict>
<key>0x73-0x100000</key>
<dict>
<key>Action</key>
<integer>10</integer>
<key>Priority</key>
<true/>
<key>Text</key>
<string>s</string>
</dict>
<key>0x74-0x100000</key>
<dict>
<key>Action</key>
<integer>10</integer>
<key>Priority</key>
<true/>
<key>Text</key>
<string>t</string>
</dict>
<key>0x75-0x100000</key>
<dict>
<key>Action</key>
<integer>10</integer>
<key>Priority</key>
<true/>
<key>Text</key>
<string>u</string>
</dict>
<key>0x76-0x100000</key>
<dict>
<key>Action</key>
<integer>10</integer>
<key>Priority</key>
<true/>
<key>Text</key>
<string>v</string>
</dict>
<key>0x77-0x100000</key>
<dict>
<key>Action</key>
<integer>10</integer>
<key>Priority</key>
<true/>
<key>Text</key>
<string>w</string>
</dict>
<key>0x78-0x100000</key>
<dict>
<key>Action</key>
<integer>10</integer>
<key>Priority</key>
<true/>
<key>Text</key>
<string>x</string>
</dict>
<key>0x79-0x100000</key>
<dict>
<key>Action</key>
<integer>10</integer>
<key>Priority</key>
<true/>
<key>Text</key>
<string>y</string>
</dict>
<key>0x7A-0x100000</key>
<dict>
<key>Action</key>
<integer>10</integer>
<key>Priority</key>
<true/>
<key>Text</key>
<string>z</string>
</dict>

7. Save the file, then restart iTerm. All Command keys will now be remapped to their Alt equivalents. This has the side effect of completely disabling all the menu commands, but if you're like me you really won't give a rat's ass. :-)
Regards,
-scott
Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson.
Post #306,086
by folkert
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3/23/09 11:14:37 PM
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New Dude...
I put in on the Dell...

I think I might have to goto the Apple Store and check out a Mac Pro or something...

and a MacBook Pro.

Damn. I just wish I had about $10K laying around.... I'd blow it on those two things.
Post #306,089
by malraux
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3/23/09 11:18:37 PM
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New I'll probably end up doing 00 through FF
That XML only covers letters.

Man, this is nice. Emacs in a remote ssh to my work machine Just Works.
Regards,
-scott
Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson.
Post #306,091
by Another Scott
3/23/09 11:25:32 PM
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New What, no Dvorak version?
Post #306,036
by Another Scott
3/23/09 9:46:08 AM
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New Use ZOC?
I haven't used it recently, but ZOC was a very powerful terminal emulator on OS/2. It runs on OS X now.

http://www.emtec.com/zoc/index.html

Maybe it'll do what you need?

HTH.

Cheers,
Scott.
Post #306,069
by malraux
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3/23/09 7:00:43 PM
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New I'll give it a try, but dang, $100 for a terminal program?
Regards,
-scott
Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson.
Post #306,071
by Another Scott
3/23/09 7:21:20 PM
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New Yeah, it's spendy. But very good.
Another, free, option is C-Kermit but I don't know if it's been updated recently.

http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/ck80.html

They request that you buy the book to fund development, or used to.

Let's see... It looks like the last OS X binary was for PPC. The source is available, but... http://www.columbia....rmit/ckdaily.html

Best of luck. I hope it doesn't cost much $$$ or time to solve this problem.

Cheers,
Scott.
Post #306,073
by boxley
3/23/09 8:00:42 PM
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New brings back memories, porting 7bit kermit to 8bit
for a project around 1986 or so to take advantage of the 286 intel processor :-)
Post #306,075
by Another Scott
3/23/09 8:14:21 PM
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New C-Kermit is amazing.
:-)

Most people who have used Kermit think it's only good for transferring stuff at 128 baud across tin cans and a string, but it's actually very powerful software. It's day in the sun has certainly passed, but it's an excellent terminal emulator if you need one.

Cheers,
Scott.
Post #306,081
by malraux
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3/23/09 10:13:57 PM
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New Nope, no worky. BUT...
iTerm: http://sourceforge.n...release_id=628621

Then:
http://hackaddict.bl...ord-in-iterm.html

Follow the above for all required keys, and it works! And it's free! BWAHAHAHAHAAA!

Greg, get iTerm immediately!
Regards,
-scott
Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson.
Post #306,082
by Another Scott
3/23/09 10:16:56 PM
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New Excellent!
Post #306,083
by folkert
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3/23/09 11:01:25 PM
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New Re: Nope, no worky. BUT...
So here I am posting from my Dell Mini9 with OSX and you *DARE* give me something that looks like I'ma gonna have to give up on Linux...

I be damned if this isn't what I've been wanting for a terminal app for a Mac.

Self updating as well. Nice. Featureful. Powerful.

DAMMINT! (for reals this time!)
Post #306,085
by malraux
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3/23/09 11:04:26 PM
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New :-)
I'm giddy... this was the single major pain point I have had on OS X.
Regards,
-scott
Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson.
Post #306,087
by folkert
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3/23/09 11:16:53 PM
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New It was my single reason...
I wouldn't use OSX.

All other things I can deal with.

My Term App has to be the way i want it. period.

Thanks... BTW.

And Yes, Steve admittedly knew about... yew bastage!
Post #306,093
by Steve Lowe
3/23/09 11:58:32 PM
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New Re: It was my single reason...
In my defense, I didn't know about the keymapping hack!
     Keyboards for Apple; key-mapping angles? - (Ashton) - (20) - March 23, 2009, 05:19:15 AM EDT
         Adding to that: - (malraux) - (16) - March 23, 2009, 08:42:14 AM EDT
             Significantly... - (folkert) - (4) - March 23, 2009, 09:09:44 AM EDT
                 Greg... get iTerm - (malraux) - (3) - March 23, 2009, 11:03:00 PM EDT
                     Dude... - (folkert) - (2) - March 23, 2009, 11:14:37 PM EDT
                         I'll probably end up doing 00 through FF - (malraux) - (1) - March 23, 2009, 11:18:37 PM EDT
                             What, no Dvorak version? -NT - (Another Scott) - March 23, 2009, 11:25:32 PM EDT
             Use ZOC? - (Another Scott) - (10) - March 23, 2009, 09:46:08 AM EDT
                 I'll give it a try, but dang, $100 for a terminal program? -NT - (malraux) - (9) - March 23, 2009, 07:00:43 PM EDT
                     Yeah, it's spendy. But very good. - (Another Scott) - (8) - March 23, 2009, 07:21:20 PM EDT
                         brings back memories, porting 7bit kermit to 8bit - (boxley) - (1) - March 23, 2009, 08:00:42 PM EDT
                             C-Kermit is amazing. - (Another Scott) - March 23, 2009, 08:14:21 PM EDT
                         Nope, no worky. BUT... - (malraux) - (5) - March 23, 2009, 10:13:57 PM EDT
                             Excellent! -NT - (Another Scott) - March 23, 2009, 10:16:56 PM EDT
                             Re: Nope, no worky. BUT... - (folkert) - (3) - March 23, 2009, 11:01:25 PM EDT
                                 :-) - (malraux) - (2) - March 23, 2009, 11:04:26 PM EDT
                                     It was my single reason... - (folkert) - (1) - March 23, 2009, 11:16:53 PM EDT
                                         Re: It was my single reason... - (Steve Lowe) - March 23, 2009, 11:58:32 PM EDT
         No personal experience. - (Another Scott) - (1) - March 23, 2009, 10:42:06 AM EDT
             Thanks; neglected to mention I used that option - (Ashton) - March 23, 2009, 08:02:41 PM EDT
         Re: Keyboards for Apple; key-mapping angles? - (Bman) - March 23, 2009, 11:36:19 AM EDT

Duuuude...?
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