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New It's been a while since I've seen that statement.
. . since so far no halfway solid evidence of Jesus' actual physical existence has been found in modern times, nor was Origen able to find any only 200 years after the (presumed) fact, though he searched diligently.


Do you have a reference? I'm curious.

It is my understanding that at one point the records of Pontius Pilate's court were examined and no evidence of the judgment of Jesus was found.


My understanding of Roman history is the opposite. Again, I'm curious about your references.

Wade.


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Somebody save my life
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New Re: It's been a while since I've seen that statement.
My source for their being no evidence of Jesus' actual existence is at least 5 years of back issues of Biblical Archeology Review, a publication who's editors have sometimes been just a bit too anxious to find something - anything - but are so far empty handed.

As for Pontius Pilate's court records, the reference I mentionsd as "my understanding" I saw so long ago I can't remember the source or its reliability. On the other hand, here's a detailed scholarly exposition as to why no event as described in the Bible would be found in Pilate's records, examined or not. [link|http://www.scu.edu/scm/exclusives/passion-baker.cfm|Reconstructing Jesus\ufffd Death: A Historical Context].
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Expand Edited by Andrew Grygus Nov. 3, 2007, 12:06:13 PM EDT
New Interesting paper. Thanks for the link.
New I remember BAR.
That's a most curious source! :-)

I'll check that link. Thanks.

Wade.


Is it enough to love
Is it enough to breathe
Somebody rip my heart out
And leave me here to bleed
 
Is it enough to die
Somebody save my life
I'd rather be Anything but Ordinary
Please



-- "Anything but Ordinary" by Avril Lavigne.

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· [link|http://staticsan.livejournal.com/|blog] ·
· [link|http://yceran.org/|website] ·

New BAR is great fun.
Almost every issue opens with an angry letter from some Christian or another canceling his/her subscription for publishing an article that presents evidence rather than doctrine or describes pagan beliefs (or contains a photo of a female excavation volunteer dressed in a straw hat, shorts and a halter top).

Academic battles among the "minimalists", "literalists" and everyone in between can rage on for months, in both the form of articles and letters, and some of them can get pretty mean spirited.

And BAR is often fiercely attacked by the hard core "politically correct" of academic archeology for publishing information on artifacts that are "without provenance", in other words not excavated by a qualified archeologist, and by the hard nosed former general who runs the Israel Antiquities establishment.

In addition there's the publisher's often frustrated hopes of finding some solid archeological evidence of the historical Jesus which adds a little extra entertainment.

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             Lucky we didn't say anything about the dirty knife. - (folkert)
         A little premature, I think . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (10)
             cmon, Loki Apollo Hermes Heracles djinn mohammed's buddy -NT - (boxley)
             There are many that feel that Jesus was an anagram - (imqwerky) - (3)
                 It's always a bit suspicious when you have a Savior . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (2)
                     Catholics more or less invented literalism - (JayMehaffey) - (1)
                         The Romans had a sensible policy despite their arrogance. - (Andrew Grygus)
             It's been a while since I've seen that statement. - (static) - (4)
                 Re: It's been a while since I've seen that statement. - (Andrew Grygus) - (3)
                     Interesting paper. Thanks for the link. -NT - (Another Scott)
                     I remember BAR. - (static) - (1)
                         BAR is great fun. - (Andrew Grygus)

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