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New My point is your position == Complicity.
And if your values are not exemplified by the status quo, why defend those values? Each of us has "played the game" to some extent. It's just that some of us have a bad taste in our mouths after doing so. And we *only* do so to the extent necessary and we rarely (if ever) expound upon the virtues of our efforts in playing the game. That's what I take issue with. Your almost knee-jerk reaction to defend any atrocity committed by big bizness with your rationale typically being the insufficient, "I live in the real world." Just by saying that you are not an advocate for change. On the contrary, you are defender of the corporate muck.
bcnu,
Mikem

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New Keep jumping...maybe one day your conclusion will be right.
The knee-jerking is certainly not mine. Your knee-jerking has me defending insurance companies when I've directly stated they are a problem.

You knee-jerked a conversation about Moore being a whiner into defense of the US healthcare industry.

The fact that I don't blindly adhere to handing the system over to the government that can't get ANYTHING right somehow makes me a defender of the status quo.

Please, tell me what my next position is because you and other seem more than happy to invent them for me.

Too much of today's music is fashionable crap dressed as artistry.Adrian Belew
     Price of gas up 50 cents today... - (jb4) - (54)
         After some thought, I think it ought to be $5.50/gallon. - (mmoffitt) - (53)
             you mean like they did with the cigarette tax settlements? - (boxley)
             Add treatment of lung related diseases too. - (a6l6e6x) - (46)
                 Environmental Impact Statements. Great idea! - (mmoffitt)
                 See above...big tobacco paid for that already :-/ -NT - (bepatient) - (44)
                     His point stands. - (mmoffitt) - (43)
                         I understand all that... - (bepatient) - (42)
                             Well, fixing the systemic problems in your country's - (jake123) - (41)
                                 How so exactly? - (bepatient) - (40)
                                     That when they get an excuse to collect some kind of - (jake123) - (11)
                                         OK..misunderstanding of terms - (bepatient) - (10)
                                             Well, in my mind I'm nailing both - (jake123) - (9)
                                                 Partial answer. - (mmoffitt) - (8)
                                                     not the right one either. - (bepatient) - (7)
                                                         That last statement's problematic - (jake123) - (2)
                                                             As you are so fond of noticing - (bepatient) - (1)
                                                                 It won't take "blowing up everything". - (mmoffitt)
                                                         by and large B.S. - (mmoffitt) - (1)
                                                             well I would hardly class those - (bepatient)
                                                         You have a nice dentist. - (hnick) - (1)
                                                             She's in plan - (bepatient)
                                     Not that I understand *exactly*, in detail, WTF you're on... - (CRConrad) - (27)
                                         We could certainly - (bepatient) - (26)
                                             WTF do fossil fuels and China have to do with anything??? - (CRConrad) - (25)
                                                 Why don't you actually read the thread? Or do you enjoy - (bepatient) - (24)
                                                     'Left' then responds to 'Right'-eousness-cha-cha-cha - (Ashton) - (23)
                                                         Until the rules change to the ones you like - (bepatient) - (22)
                                                             That reeks of "Love it or Leave it." - (mmoffitt) - (21)
                                                                 Not even close - (bepatient) - (10)
                                                                     Condemning something != Not seeing it. HTH. -NT - (mmoffitt) - (9)
                                                                         Willful ignorance != Condemnation. HTH -NT - (bepatient) - (8)
                                                                             Careful with that word "willful". - (mmoffitt) - (7)
                                                                                 You simply don't get it, do you? - (bepatient) - (6)
                                                                                     thats not ignorance - (boxley) - (1)
                                                                                         Possible - (bepatient)
                                                                                     Well, as long as you're not trying to ... - (mmoffitt) - (3)
                                                                                         Making it "better" tm - (bepatient) - (2)
                                                                                             My point is your position == Complicity. - (mmoffitt) - (1)
                                                                                                 Keep jumping...maybe one day your conclusion will be right. - (bepatient)
                                                                 Not to wreck your ideas of wreaking, but usually it's havoc. - (CRConrad) - (9)
                                                                     Post of the Day! -NT - (Another Scott)
                                                                     Damn. I know better than that. Thanks. It did H. -NT - (mmoffitt)
                                                                     Yep - (bepatient) - (6)
                                                                         Re: the brimstone, but OT. - (a6l6e6x) - (5)
                                                                             :-) Fine thanks - (bepatient) - (4)
                                                                                 Yikes. - (mmoffitt) - (3)
                                                                                     All minor - (bepatient) - (2)
                                                                                         Re: part of the fun :-) ??? - (a6l6e6x) - (1)
                                                                                             Just a few blisters - (bepatient)
             Dude. Read "The Long Emergency". - (inthane-chan) - (4)
                 They've got Cliff notes for Idiots Guides?? - (hnick) - (3)
                     Point being... - (inthane-chan) - (2)
                         Sure, though I take a yes/no view of it. - (hnick) - (1)
                             Violent revolution. - (mmoffitt)

Ever since then, I can easily spot a sociopathic liar.
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