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Post #274,670
by boxley
12/3/06 12:50:49 PM
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New say a "crock" sentence
your local walmart super center sells fish farmed in china, shrimp farmed in thailand and vietnam. Which US agency certifies these farms? Your guessed it. Walmart can do it because they are big, a small shop owner in NYC gets fined. Unless it sez wild caught in US or Canada I wouldnt eat it.
thanx,
bill
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Post #274,674
by Andrew Grygus
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12/3/06 1:48:51 PM
12/3/06 1:51:34 PM
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New If everyone followed that rule . . .
. . nobody would be eating fish - they'd be extinct or near extinction and priced so high they'd all be shipped to Japan (where high price is considered the greatest flavor enhancement).

U.S. rainbow trout production in 2002 was over 27,000 tons (and the U.S. is not the largest producer). Salmon production was over 14,000 tons and catfish production was over 315,000 tons. There is no chance in hell this volume could be produced by "wild catch".

Fish farming definitely presents environmental and health problems, but those problems need to be worked out. A lot of progress is being made.

As for Southeast Asian fish (farmed and wild caught), producers are increasingly US FDA [link|http://www.cfsan.fda.gov/~lrd/haccp.html|HACCP compliant] (Hazard Analysis and Critical Control Point), particularly in Vietnam.

It is not difficult for small markets to obtain properly certified products from wholesalers.

A couple of years ago U.S. catfish farmers, concerned by imports of Vietnamese catfish (basa and tra), sent an expedition to gather information about the Vietnamese catfish industry, hoping to use it in marketing.

One representative stated, "We went to Vietnam expecting to find fish grown in poluted water and processed in primitive facilities. That is not what we found and we're scared to death."

Incidentally, Vietnamese catfish is not like American channel cat. It's from a genus called "shark catfish" due to their shape. Fillets are thinner and broader and the flavor is less assertively "catfishy". Very good fish, all in all.
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     Andrew, be glad you dont live in NYC - (bionerd) - (36) - Dec. 3, 2006, 10:32:59 AM EST
         We have all the same rules here - and much more . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - Dec. 3, 2006, 11:27:06 AM EST
         say a "crock" sentence - (boxley) - (1) - Dec. 3, 2006, 12:50:49 PM EST
             If everyone followed that rule . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - Dec. 3, 2006, 01:51:34 PM EST
         Our food laws are a drag - (tuberculosis) - (32) - Dec. 3, 2006, 01:51:00 PM EST
             Personally, I'm planning on goose this year. - (Andrew Grygus) - (31) - Dec. 3, 2006, 01:56:51 PM EST
                 standing rib roast for xmas - (boxley) - (29) - Dec. 3, 2006, 03:44:42 PM EST
                     Yum - (crazy) - (28) - Dec. 3, 2006, 04:09:51 PM EST
                         And now I have one - (crazy) - (9) - Dec. 9, 2006, 11:47:42 AM EST
                             I love it! - (crazy) - (6) - Dec. 8, 2006, 07:34:21 PM EST
                                 In the garage? - (tuberculosis) - (5) - Dec. 8, 2006, 10:05:42 PM EST
                                     Don't worry - It's electric - (crazy) - (4) - Dec. 8, 2006, 10:44:06 PM EST
                                         Yabut, its job is to burn wood - (tuberculosis) - (1) - Dec. 9, 2006, 12:24:01 AM EST
                                             Don't worry, be happy - (crazy) - Dec. 9, 2006, 11:46:39 AM EST
                                         Did the brisket last night - (crazy) - (1) - Dec. 10, 2006, 12:42:33 PM EST
                                             make some jerky next time - (boxley) - Dec. 10, 2006, 12:54:07 PM EST
                             Linky no workee -NT - (drewk) - (1) - Dec. 9, 2006, 01:52:26 AM EST
                                 Linkee fixee -NT - (crazy) - Dec. 9, 2006, 11:48:04 AM EST
                         this way is better - (boxley) - (17) - Dec. 3, 2006, 07:57:07 PM EST
                             Does it taste salty when you're done? - (drewk) - (16) - Dec. 3, 2006, 09:36:33 PM EST
                                 I love the hammer instruction -NT - (crazy) - (4) - Dec. 3, 2006, 09:44:02 PM EST
                                     I've seen it done for fish (Iron Chef) - (drewk) - Dec. 3, 2006, 10:02:04 PM EST
                                     I've got a recipe for southwest goat leg in clay - (tuberculosis) - (2) - Dec. 4, 2006, 12:03:48 AM EST
                                         find out where the mexicans shop, the local carniceria - (boxley) - (1) - Dec. 4, 2006, 09:11:41 AM EST
                                             Actually, there's a mexican grocery in Poulsbo - (tuberculosis) - Dec. 4, 2006, 11:44:36 AM EST
                                 not at all, if you have ever had a real prime rib - (boxley) - (9) - Dec. 3, 2006, 09:46:07 PM EST
                                     Can't find it? - (drewk) - (8) - Dec. 3, 2006, 10:04:04 PM EST
                                         It's probably the aging - (tonytib) - Dec. 3, 2006, 10:21:39 PM EST
                                         nope to all, pay attention - (boxley) - (6) - Dec. 3, 2006, 11:10:11 PM EST
                                             Well, I be making it next weekend - (crazy) - Dec. 3, 2006, 11:45:14 PM EST
                                             Don't blame me - (drewk) - (4) - Dec. 3, 2006, 11:51:16 PM EST
                                                 I've been wandering recipe sites - (crazy) - (2) - Dec. 5, 2006, 06:58:32 AM EST
                                                     ICLRPD (new thread) - (imqwerky) - Dec. 4, 2006, 09:26:31 AM EST
                                                     SIE... Sights??? - (CRConrad) - Dec. 5, 2006, 02:28:50 AM EST
                                                 ICLRPD (new thread) - (imqwerky) - Dec. 4, 2006, 09:28:13 AM EST
                                 I saw Jamie Oliver do something like to a chook. - (static) - Dec. 4, 2006, 12:38:35 AM EST
                 2nd year for a Turducken here - (lincoln) - Dec. 3, 2006, 06:23:43 PM EST

Lather, rinse, repeat.
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