I guess I have to agree

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Post #257,018

by Arkadiy

5/28/06 11:47:55 AM

I guess I have to agree

about "human" and "common programming". The problem starts when "programming" gets so vague that anything goes. Or when the carriers of a particular kind of "programming" decide that their programming is the only one in the world that does not deserve respect.

The reason a "programming" survives is because it's advantageous for a society to have it. When the society decides to eliminate its own concept of beauty, the society is sick or suicidal.

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Post #257,019

by bepatient

5/28/06 11:59:25 AM

And I with you

Just because there is no "objective" standard doesn't mean there cannot be a common belief. I find the defense of some of the "art" now to be troubling in that fashion.

The vehemence to defend the most marginal simply means that people are wiling to suspend their consideration of the greater good in persuit of anarchy.

The care is in where the line is drawn...which is where most err on the side of caution...hence open displays of fesces in major museums and galleries.

If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. _{Fudd's First Law of Opposition}

[link|mailto:bepatient@aol.com|BePatient]

A declaration of humanism - (marlowe) - (67) - April 23, 2006, 03:43:54 PM EDT

I don't hate humanity - (ben_tilly) - (1) - April 23, 2006, 04:06:36 PM EDT

Oh, you're soooo intolerant. - (marlowe) - May 7, 2006, 06:40:40 PM EDT

What I want to hear from you is . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (1) - April 23, 2006, 05:36:42 PM EDT

Your confusion of opinion with reality... - (marlowe) - May 7, 2006, 06:46:22 PM EDT

Im glad you support legalizing drugs and prostitution - (boxley) - April 23, 2006, 05:40:29 PM EDT

Fascist-humanist - (JayMehaffey) - (4) - April 23, 2006, 05:51:10 PM EDT

There's a little thing called logic. - (marlowe) - (3) - May 7, 2006, 07:19:19 PM EDT

Then how - (JayMehaffey) - May 7, 2006, 08:06:28 PM EDT

Rules in society aren't black and white. - (Another Scott) - May 7, 2006, 08:47:57 PM EDT

You just heard of it? - (tuberculosis) - May 8, 2006, 07:23:17 PM EDT

Zero grasp of basic economic theory - (tuberculosis) - April 24, 2006, 12:50:29 AM EDT

Okay now I have more time to address your concerns - (boxley) - (52) - April 24, 2006, 03:00:03 AM EDT

It was nice of you to do that - (bepatient) - (51) - April 24, 2006, 09:19:02 AM EDT

+5 Insightful - (jb4) - (1) - April 24, 2006, 01:58:09 PM EDT

I'm gonna say it again - (jake123) - April 24, 2006, 02:49:17 PM EDT

I don't know much about art... - (marlowe) - (48) - May 7, 2006, 06:44:42 PM EDT

Define objective. Define beauty. - (Another Scott) - (5) - May 7, 2006, 07:26:20 PM EDT

You really need "objective" defined for you? - (marlowe) - (4) - May 21, 2006, 06:29:26 PM EDT

Define "objective beauty". - (pwhysall) - (2) - May 21, 2006, 06:37:37 PM EDT

Objective beauty == oxymoron - (jbrabeck) - (1) - May 21, 2006, 08:57:41 PM EDT

I know that and you know that. - (pwhysall) - May 22, 2006, 03:09:50 AM EDT

you havnt answered why the people you date arnt objectively - (boxley) - May 22, 2006, 08:24:44 AM EDT

give me a break, look at the women(or men) you date - (boxley) - May 7, 2006, 07:51:39 PM EDT

I like motorway intersections, integrated circuits and fonts - (pwhysall) - May 8, 2006, 01:50:05 AM EDT

Don't know much about history... - (jb4) - May 8, 2006, 11:34:53 AM EDT

I don't think so, pal. - (bepatient) - (1) - May 10, 2006, 12:43:42 PM EDT

Who you callin' "sir"?!? - (jb4) - May 10, 2006, 02:12:25 PM EDT

Or anything else it seems -NT - (tuberculosis) - May 12, 2006, 03:48:23 AM EDT

I'm surprised at you - (GBert) - May 17, 2006, 11:06:05 AM EDT

Why does a humanist care about the madonna? -NT - (warmachine) - (1) - May 22, 2006, 02:47:20 AM EDT

why does anyone care about madonna? -NT - (boxley) - May 22, 2006, 08:25:30 AM EDT

Re: I don't know much about art... - (pwhysall) - (32) - May 22, 2006, 08:36:23 AM EDT

I, on the other hand, - (jbrabeck) - (7) - May 22, 2006, 09:57:04 AM EDT

Objective beauty of art? That's too easy! - (GBert) - (6) - May 22, 2006, 11:14:37 AM EDT

And someone called *me* snarky -NT - (drewk) - (3) - May 22, 2006, 11:52:46 AM EDT

Well, they were right... - (jb4) - (2) - May 22, 2006, 02:25:11 PM EDT

How about "table-driven snarky"? OOP is a lie! -NT - (drewk) - (1) - May 22, 2006, 02:31:08 PM EDT

Alright! Who stole Drew's ID and is holding it for ransom? -NT - (jb4) - May 22, 2006, 02:32:31 PM EDT

Objective beauty is soviet era art with american flags -NT - (boxley) - (1) - May 22, 2006, 02:51:02 PM EDT

I believe Rand has a nice collection of that -NT - (drewk) - May 22, 2006, 02:54:10 PM EDT

So, please, tell me. Is there such "thing" as beauty? - (Arkadiy) - (23) - May 27, 2006, 07:26:43 PM EDT

Point = missed. - (pwhysall) - (7) - May 28, 2006, 03:12:39 AM EDT

Not really missed - (Arkadiy) - (1) - May 28, 2006, 11:17:27 AM EDT

Yeah, you have. - (pwhysall) - May 28, 2006, 09:25:52 PM EDT

I have to apologise here - (Arkadiy) - (4) - May 28, 2006, 11:59:35 AM EDT

You're still missing the point - (pwhysall) - (1) - May 28, 2006, 09:23:24 PM EDT

those pictures are loverly - (boxley) - May 30, 2006, 01:44:21 PM EDT

The Pontiac Aztek has a face... - (jb4) - (1) - May 30, 2006, 01:08:15 PM EDT

Grargh. - (pwhysall) - May 30, 2006, 02:07:24 PM EDT

Independent from the observer? No. - (bepatient) - (14) - May 28, 2006, 11:36:05 AM EDT

I guess I have to agree - (Arkadiy) - (1) - May 28, 2006, 11:47:55 AM EDT

And I with you - (bepatient) - May 28, 2006, 11:59:25 AM EDT

s /Van Gogh/Rembrandt perhaps? -NT - (Another Scott) - (1) - May 28, 2006, 12:08:16 PM EDT

Yeah...my bad. -NT - (bepatient) - May 28, 2006, 12:20:25 PM EDT

Not I - (jbrabeck) - (9) - May 28, 2006, 02:03:07 PM EDT

Its a huge painting - (bepatient) - (8) - May 28, 2006, 05:54:29 PM EDT

Yabbut - (imric) - (7) - May 28, 2006, 06:31:51 PM EDT

And we will burn that which fails the test! - (pwhysall) - May 28, 2006, 09:27:26 PM EDT

Um... - (bepatient) - (5) - May 29, 2006, 12:52:31 PM EDT

ROFL... Come now, Beep! - (imric) - (4) - May 29, 2006, 06:09:12 PM EDT

Oh, come on now - 'Saving the Cheeeldrun' is . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (3) - May 29, 2006, 06:25:01 PM EDT

Here's how: - (pwhysall) - (2) - May 29, 2006, 06:35:41 PM EDT

why dont you like the picture of a labrador wearing a coat? -NT - (boxley) - May 30, 2006, 01:47:36 PM EDT

Gah! I've seen "Glory to CPSU"posters that were better made. -NT - (Arkadiy) - June 4, 2006, 12:28:30 PM EDT

Me too! Give me a break too! - (rcareaga) - (2) - May 7, 2006, 11:46:07 PM EDT

For those of you who need a dictionary - (broomberg) - (1) - May 8, 2006, 12:01:30 AM EDT

Calumny! -NT - (pwhysall) - May 8, 2006, 01:46:51 AM EDT

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