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Post #255,105
by boxley
5/11/06 2:21:00 PM
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New who programs the computer?
Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free american and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 50 years. meep
Post #255,108
by jb4
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5/11/06 2:35:54 PM
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New adminiScott!
Just as long as it is not Diebold, and the source code is available for public (that's me, folks!) inspection, I don't much care.
jb4
"So don't pay attention to the approval ratings that say 68% of Americans disapprove of the job this man is doing. I ask you this, does that not also logically mean that 68% approve of the job he's not doing? Think about it. I haven't."
— Stephen Colbert, at the White House Correspondent's Dinner 29Apr06
Post #255,111
by JayMehaffey
5/11/06 3:08:55 PM
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New The algorithm would have to be public
The algorith used would have be public. And once that is done, it really doesn't matter who provides the program to the government, as the result will be tested by outside groups.

The real trick is writing up an algorithm that is fair, deterministic and effective. Fair in the sense that it doesn't bias the layout towards any party, that would be fairly easy. Deterministic in that given the same input map and population data it will always produce the same layout, making independent verification possible. Effective in that the district map would be understandable and simple.

Jay
     Weird proposal to allow DC a vote in the House. - (Another Scott) - (26) - May 11, 2006, 12:05:03 AM EDT
         Obviously setup to keep the balance. - (JayMehaffey) - (24) - May 11, 2006, 12:34:36 AM EDT
             Permanently at large congress members could be good - (ben_tilly) - (23) - May 11, 2006, 10:52:37 AM EDT
                 I don't like that idea. - (Another Scott) - (6) - May 11, 2006, 12:52:24 PM EDT
                     An at large must pander to the strident majority - (boxley) - (1) - May 11, 2006, 01:21:31 PM EDT
                         ? That's not the way it works in DC. - (Another Scott) - May 11, 2006, 02:07:01 PM EDT
                     I don't like it, either - (jb4) - (3) - May 11, 2006, 01:50:13 PM EDT
                         who programs the computer? -NT - (boxley) - (2) - May 11, 2006, 02:21:00 PM EDT
                             adminiScott! - (jb4) - May 11, 2006, 02:35:54 PM EDT
                             The algorithm would have to be public - (JayMehaffey) - May 11, 2006, 03:08:55 PM EDT
                 Making them all at large might be OK - (JayMehaffey) - (15) - May 11, 2006, 03:01:33 PM EDT
                     Don't tell me...you're an Engineer, right? -NT - (jb4) - May 11, 2006, 03:09:53 PM EDT
                     Alaska is a perfect example of why that doesnt work - (boxley) - (13) - May 11, 2006, 04:25:44 PM EDT
                         See Another Scott's comments about DC - (ben_tilly) - (10) - May 11, 2006, 05:13:17 PM EDT
                             must be missing something - (boxley) - (9) - May 11, 2006, 06:26:53 PM EDT
                                 Yes, you must :-) - (ben_tilly) - (8) - May 11, 2006, 07:02:46 PM EDT
                                     And then you can have NC's 12th Congressional district. - (a6l6e6x) - (1) - May 11, 2006, 08:50:10 PM EDT
                                         True dat, but... - (ben_tilly) - May 11, 2006, 09:29:47 PM EDT
                                     doesnt work that way - (boxley) - (5) - May 11, 2006, 09:06:10 PM EDT
                                         How many "at large" votes does each person have? - (ben_tilly) - (3) - May 11, 2006, 09:28:23 PM EDT
                                             if you have 2 at large seats ya have one vote for both seats - (boxley) - (2) - May 12, 2006, 08:29:52 AM EDT
                                                 One vote per seat works IF - (ben_tilly) - (1) - May 12, 2006, 12:00:35 PM EDT
                                                     You OBVIOUSLY don't live in Chicago.... -NT - (jb4) - May 12, 2006, 12:07:21 PM EDT
                                         Problem is *not enough* at -large seats - (drewk) - May 12, 2006, 08:48:40 AM EDT
                         Which is why I don't both house to be that way - (JayMehaffey) - (1) - May 11, 2006, 09:28:47 PM EDT
                             Right now neither house has proportional distribution -NT - (ben_tilly) - May 11, 2006, 09:31:49 PM EDT
         Looks less likely it'll happen this year. - (Another Scott) - May 13, 2006, 08:20:19 AM EDT

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