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Same issue with my wife.

Taught her how to search...set up portal...the whole nine yards.

Bottom line...AOL has >content< that others don't. She likes that content and the way its structured.

9 years for me Norm. 7 screen names. No mail issues. No security issues. My username has never been compromised. (knock wood). I have as many friends that use AOL and like it as you have that don't. That boils down to personal preference.

Irrespective of that...there is still nothing but a positive track record between AOL and open source software....so you may not like them...but they've donated time and talent to projects that >you< like.

You were born...and so you're free...so Happy Birthday! Laurie Anderson

[link|mailto:bepatient@aol.com|BePatient]
New What can AOL provide that you cannot find on the Net
somewhere else?

Like was said, many of us just use Google or some other search engine. We don't need our steak to be cut up into tiny pieces for us, we can do it ourselves.

I am sorry that you cannot see AOL for the company that it is.

"Will code Visual BASIC for cash."
New Don't be sorry...
...no need. I don't agree with you...and your opinion is not TRUTH.

AOL is a media company. There is ALOT of content that is specific to AOL. It is arranged well.

You like to google. Fine.

My friend likes to sign on and click once. Works for him. He's actually very computer and net savvy.

You have a disdain...he has a preference. His preference is shared by a whole lotta people...whether you like it or not.
You were born...and so you're free...so Happy Birthday! Laurie Anderson

[link|mailto:bepatient@aol.com|BePatient]
New whether you like it or not
my disdain is shared by a whole lotta people as well. Many of whom are Ex-AOL users.

What media exists that you can only get on AOL? That is like saying I like the Cable Company because I can get local channels on it with just a click of the remote. Sure but you can also get the same media from an antenna. Want the same program channels as Cable but don't want to pay the high prices? Get satellite TV!

I suppose that AOL shows CNN stories that are not viewable from cnn.com or the CNN news channel on cable and satellite systems? Or maybe they have the same, but AOL integrates the story in the same Window that you read your email from?

I still do not understand what the big deal over AOL is that 100 million people want to use it. These must be the same people who keep electing the idiots into office that I never vote for? :)

"Will code Visual BASIC for cash."
New Re: What can AOL provide that you cannot find on the Net
Back when I used Compuserve, they provided a number of reasonably civil (sometimes moderated) forums and chat areas that you can't usually find on Usenet or IRC.

I suppose AOL has a similar setup.

Internet discussion group places like ziwethey are few and far between. Trying to discuss stuff on Slashdot? Hah. Kuro5hin? Almost as bad.
"Beware of bugs in the above code; I have only proved it correct, not tried it."
-- Donald Knuth
New Oh really? Mark Two.
You mean like Ezboard? :)

But anyway if AOL has forums, tons of other websites have forums that can just as easily be used. Even if AOL forums may not be accessable by the web, someone else already provides the same services elsewhere.

Does AOL provide moderation of forums? This is something that Ezboard and Yahoo lack, they let the script kiddies, lamers, spammers, and other evil doers take control of the forums/clubs. Usually it is up to founders or forum owners to clean them up, but very few actually do. Some just create the forum or club and then leave.

"Will code Visual BASIC for cash."
     LA Times: AOL Negotiating to Buy RED HAT! - (Andrew Grygus) - (100)
         Nooo! Nooo! Nyet! Nine! Narf! Nunka! - (nking) - (49)
             Two things . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (47)
                 Oh like it helped Netscape, ICQ? - (nking) - (44)
                     Misconception . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (8)
                         That wasn't what I said - (nking) - (7)
                             Counter platform? - (Andrew Grygus) - (5)
                                 Counter Counter Platform - (nking) - (4)
                                     Continued, Post-Monster Kids - (nking) - (2)
                                         OT: 5 hrs. at the mall Norm? Sheeesh! -NT - (jb4) - (1)
                                             Nope, 15 minutes at the mall, 4 hours at Grandma's house - (nking)
                                     Errrr . . Norm? - (Andrew Grygus)
                             Netscape and Mozilla - (Andrew Grygus)
                     Eh? - (pwhysall) - (34)
                         AOL whoas - (nking) - (33)
                             Re: AOL whoas - (pwhysall) - (32)
                                 if I had my choice between using AOL or not having Net - (nking) - (1)
                                     More about AOL - (nking)
                                 Excuse me...? - (jb4) - (29)
                                     Crap? - (pwhysall) - (28)
                                         Then stop genuflecting there... - (jb4) - (7)
                                             /me slaps jb4 about with a large trout - (pwhysall) - (3)
                                                 is that a seagoing, fresh water or racerack trout? me dux -NT - (boxley) - (1)
                                                     Given my history in the '70s... - (jb4)
                                                 /me slaps the Shill about with a large Cod - (jb4)
                                             Occham was all marketing... - (mhuber) - (2)
                                                 A more complex hypothesis - (nking)
                                                 ______________________S _Shhhhhhhh you fool.. - (Ashton)
                                         I've already proven that AOL is crap - (nking) - (19)
                                             You've done no such thing. - (bepatient) - (18)
                                                 Sure, I am not alone - (nking) - (17)
                                                     Why AOL Don't Suck - (pwhysall) - (16)
                                                         AOL does suck, McDonald's syndrome - (nking) - (13)
                                                             I see we are at that point... - (pwhysall) - (11)
                                                                 I'll repeat myself again - (nking) - (9)
                                                                     Why bother... - (bepatient) - (8)
                                                                         Oh really? - (nking) - (7)
                                                                             AOL keeps changing - (drewk)
                                                                             Really - (bepatient) - (5)
                                                                                 What can AOL provide that you cannot find on the Net - (nking) - (4)
                                                                                     Don't be sorry... - (bepatient) - (1)
                                                                                         whether you like it or not - (nking)
                                                                                     Re: What can AOL provide that you cannot find on the Net - (wharris2) - (1)
                                                                                         Oh really? Mark Two. - (nking)
                                                                 Peter, I see a quite larger reason to work against AOL - (Ashton)
                                                             Hey! Watchit! Leave the Cubbies outta this! ;-) -NT - (jb4)
                                                         By that...er, "logic"... - (jb4) - (1)
                                                             Re: By that...er, "logic"... - (pwhysall)
                 Monopolizing all electronic delivery on the net. - (Ashton) - (1)
                     The Reg wears differently-colored glasses - (Ashton)
             Actually, it might be better turned around the other way. - (static)
         Re: LA Times: AOL Negotiating to Buy RED HAT! - (a6l6e6x)
         Rumors anyway, anything proven? - (nking) - (1)
             Robert Young: "No Comment". - (Andrew Grygus)
         Re: Register speaks .... - (dmarker2) - (37)
             I don't get it. - (bepatient) - (36)
                 Re: You could well be right. - (dmarker2) - (35)
                     What happens after the AOl buyout - (nking)
                     Look at Mozilla - (Andrew Grygus) - (33)
                         This is my point. - (bepatient) - (32)
                             Not so - (nking) - (9)
                                 Re: Not so - (pwhysall) - (8)
                                     AOL trouble - (nking) - (3)
                                         Enough with the lemons, you two. - (static) - (2)
                                             We also forgot - (nking)
                                             One more lemon - (wharris2)
                                     AOL client has killed VPNs I've worked with before. - (imric) - (1)
                                         Thanks for your support - (nking)
                                     AOL has their own winsock that is incompatible with other - (boxley) - (1)
                                         AOL mucking up the OS - (nking)
                             BeeP, please see my post above - (Ashton) - (21)
                                 Sure... - (bepatient) - (20)
                                     Yes.. all true-ish. Sorta. - (Ashton) - (19)
                                         You seem to have a decidedly US-centric view... - (bepatient) - (18)
                                             You are making the distinction correctly - (Ashton) - (17)
                                                 Still... - (bepatient) - (13)
                                                     Censorship and freedom of speech - (nking) - (12)
                                                         AOL is under no obligation... - (bepatient) - (11)
                                                             So they can violate the rights of US citizens - (nking) - (10)
                                                                 They're not, though. - (pwhysall) - (9)
                                                                     That is like saying - (nking) - (8)
                                                                         Doh! back atcha Norm. - (Silverlock) - (5)
                                                                             Customers and users still have rights - (nking) - (4)
                                                                                 Wow...there are some good ones there... - (bepatient) - (3)
                                                                                     You may have a point - (nking) - (2)
                                                                                         Think. - (bepatient) - (1)
                                                                                             Think again - (nking)
                                                                         Getting a little off base, aren't we? - (Andrew Grygus) - (1)
                                                                             Thanks AG...saved me some typing. -NT - (bepatient)
                                                 Hmm, what about this - (drewk) - (2)
                                                     Nothing can legally be done 'to' AOL, - (Ashton) - (1)
                                                         Of course it cannot - (nking)
         But what about SuSE? - (jb4)
         The Marti hypothesis - (kmself)
         In other words.... - (tjsinclair)
         CNET: No they ain't! - (Steve Lowe) - (1)
             it just figures - (nking)
         User Friendly predicts the AOL/Red Hat results: - (Ashton) - (1)
             About right! :) - (nking)
         LRPD goes to the bottom of the rumours: - (CRConrad) - (1)
             Words of wisdom - (nking)

I don't usually win conversations this decisively.
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