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New Re: I think you need a 2nd opinion.
The guy who came by did the test from my PBX - so it turned out that internal wiring was never the problem. The problem is that yes, the line will (sometimes) support 700/300 - but it often drops down lower than that, to around 300/300. Since they won't sell you a package you can't max out, the "highest" package they'll sell me is the 256/256 package.

No exceptions.

Even at 700/300, that's still pretty damn pokey. I get line noise on my Vonage line if I so much as tickle the connection with any other traffic of any sort.
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New get cable.
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New That's what I'm going to do.
However, Comcast is currently rolling out their own "digital voice" system. In addition, people using Vonage on Comcast have recently been having fairly significant system issues.

I wonder if there's a connection.

I use Vonage. I like running servers off of my home computer. I like having a static IP address. Comcast doesn't like you doing any of that, and has been known to randomly sever connections in the PNW region whenever somebody happens to be in a bad mood. In addition, the upstream is limited to 384k, which, while slightly more than what I was getting, is still extremely sucky in my book. All this while costing $20/month MORE than what I was paying for my DSL service.

There are two possible outs in the near future:

1. I may be buying some property. If that pans out, I'll try DSL again.
2. Verizon is doing their FIOS service in the Seattle area - low end packages are 5m/2m, top is 30/5. It might take a couple years, but it'll get to my area, and then I can tell Comcast to go blow it out their ass.
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New Comcast is playing games
with other people's VOIP to sell their own product.



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Expand Edited by tuberculosis Aug. 21, 2007, 12:39:14 PM EDT
New Whoops.
There was supposed to be a {sarcasm} tag after a bit in there. Yeah, I know all about Comcast's games. :P
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New What's FIOS?
I'd tell Comcast to take a hike, except SBC/AT&T/WTFO has so badly horked the (external) wiring in my area that I can't get DSL, although my neighbor two houses down has had it for over five years now. Seems that when Illinois Bell (remember them?) wired the industrial park a half mile (!) away, they got lazy and rather than install new wiring, they simply ran a loop from a junction point down the block from me, and put on an analog amplifier to boost the signal. And of course, I am the second house downstream from that amplifier. Analog amp means no DSL for you!

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New Verizon's Fiber project.
[link|http://www22.verizon.com/FiosForHome/channels/Fios/HighSpeedInternetForHome.asp|http://www22.verizon...ternetForHome.asp]

It's (slowly) coming to our region, starting with the areas where people make lotsa money, natch. Of course, I live in a low income part of town...

So, the DSL router showed 256/256 for a day, then I saw some weird network crap happening, went to the status page and it showed 900/444 - higher than it had ever been before. I ran some tests, and sure enough, I'm getting around that throughput.

And I'm only paying for 256/256. :D
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New Re: What's FIOS?
[link|http://www22.verizon.com/FiosForHome/channels/Fios/HighSpeedInternetForHome.asp|FiOS]
Verizon FiOS Internet Service is a broadband service designed to provide Internet access with maximum connection speeds of up to 30 Mbps downstream and 5 Mbps upstream, depending on the service selected. FiOS is provided on our state-of-the-art fiber-optic network. The consumer packages include a standard suite of services including access to newsgroups, up to 9 Verizon.net email accounts, online services, and 10 MB of personal Web space. Optional services are also available for a fee.
Doesn't say what FiOS means, but I like the specks. I have verizon phone service, but this isn't available in my neighborhood.
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New Fiber Optic Services.
New That's too easy :-)
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New Got FiOS too
30 meg down
5 up

works well

oddly enough they screwed up the phone on the initial
install -- it goes fiberoptic too -- and had to come back
and fix that

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New Re: What's FIOS?
Got it here. We went for the 5m/2m package. Only cost us about $5 more than what we had been paying for DSL.

So far, it's been pretty stable, except for the initial install problems. Seems that the guys who ran the fiber to the house managed to damage the drop during the install. 2 weeks later, someone had to come out and re-do it.

Other than that, it's been pretty stable and speeds are just about as advertised. Latest test run today at 2:15 pm says 4777/1733.
New Thanx for the review!
I think I get 5m down, but nowhere near that up. That could be useful for videoconferencing.
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     Might as well be using dialup. :P - (inthane-chan) - (14)
         I think you need a 2nd opinion. - (Another Scott) - (13)
             Re: I think you need a 2nd opinion. - (inthane-chan) - (12)
                 get cable. -NT - (bepatient) - (11)
                     That's what I'm going to do. - (inthane-chan) - (10)
                         Comcast is playing games - (tuberculosis) - (1)
                             Whoops. - (inthane-chan)
                         What's FIOS? - (jb4) - (7)
                             Verizon's Fiber project. - (inthane-chan)
                             Re: What's FIOS? - (SpiceWare) - (5)
                                 Fiber Optic Services. -NT - (Another Scott) - (2)
                                     That's too easy :-) -NT - (SpiceWare) - (1)
                                         Got FiOS too - (andread)
                                 Re: What's FIOS? - (n3jja) - (1)
                                     Thanx for the review! - (SpiceWare)

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