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Post #248,094
by JayMehaffey
3/16/06 10:29:00 AM
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New Pretty much what ASP.NET is
It sounds like ASP.Net is trying to make you think like you're working with a Windows application and thus it's doing some magic for you down in the HTTP to shift state betweeen browser and server.

ASP.NET's basic 'advantage' is that it pastes a VB like event driven model onto a HTML form. The only advantage I can see of this is that it might make it a little easier for a Windows programmer to move to ASP.NET.

The huge downside of this that Lincoln has discovered is that it is hard to mix your own controls and javascript with ASP.NET's built in ones. The event model and flow of the code get screwy.

Jay
Post #248,103
by drewk
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3/16/06 1:12:09 PM
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New Had a programmer tell me exactly that
He was a desktop applications guy. He told me his approach to web programming was to use .NET, treat the browser window as an application window, and do everything just like it was a desktop app. Let the framework deal with how it actually works.

Believe it or not, he had problems making minor changes to the "application" whenever the default controls didn't have options for what he was asked to do.
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Post #248,122
by ChrisR
3/16/06 2:30:11 PM
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New There's three solutions...
1). Stick strictly with the standard ASP.Net controls and avoid writing any client side javascript. But you quickly run into the limitations of the standard controls.

2). Jettison the ASP.Net event model, and just do everything in Page_Load.

3). Write your own custom controls. This, at first, sounds like an attractive alternative, until you realize that there are all sorts of subtleties involved. And MS will likely break whatever you write in future upgrades.
Post #248,349
by imqwerky
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3/17/06 8:35:02 PM
3/17/06 8:35:36 PM
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New You mean "There're 3 solutions". (Beat ya, CRC!)

"It's never too late to be who you might have been." ~ George Eliot
Expand Edited by imqwerky March 17, 2006, 08:35:36 PM EST
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     Trying to do this in Javascript, Part II - (lincoln) - (19) - March 15, 2006, 05:45:57 PM EST
         Sounds more like .NET than Javascript. -NT - (admin) - March 15, 2006, 05:53:08 PM EST
         It's all ASP.Net - (ChrisR) - (5) - March 15, 2006, 06:21:17 PM EST
             Re: It's all ASP.Net - (lincoln) - (1) - March 16, 2006, 01:49:51 PM EST
                 Page_Load always gets called... - (ChrisR) - March 16, 2006, 02:26:19 PM EST
             Re: It's all ASP.Net - (lincoln) - (2) - March 16, 2006, 01:50:26 PM EST
                 apt-get install debian - (drewk) - (1) - March 16, 2006, 02:02:06 PM EST
                     That ain't gonna happen - (lincoln) - March 17, 2006, 05:45:26 PM EST
         Re: Trying to do this in Javascript, Part II - (JayMehaffey) - March 15, 2006, 07:17:59 PM EST
         You're getting JS and ASP.Net muddled. - (static) - (10) - March 15, 2006, 10:48:56 PM EST
             That's exactly what it's doing - (drewk) - (4) - March 15, 2006, 10:56:04 PM EST
                 Huge? that's an understatement - (SpiceWare) - (3) - March 16, 2006, 11:42:01 AM EST
                     You should have asked them to add - (lincoln) - (2) - March 20, 2006, 11:34:02 AM EST
                         I did drop them a note - (SpiceWare) - (1) - March 20, 2006, 02:23:20 PM EST
                             nicely done! -NT - (lincoln) - March 21, 2006, 05:04:03 PM EST
             Pretty much what ASP.NET is - (JayMehaffey) - (3) - March 16, 2006, 10:29:00 AM EST
                 Had a programmer tell me exactly that - (drewk) - (2) - March 16, 2006, 01:12:09 PM EST
                     There's three solutions... - (ChrisR) - (1) - March 16, 2006, 02:30:11 PM EST
                         You mean "There're 3 solutions". (Beat ya, CRC!) -NT - (imqwerky) - March 17, 2006, 08:35:36 PM EST
             Here's how it was solved - (lincoln) - March 20, 2006, 11:28:22 AM EST

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