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Post #242,513
by Another Scott
1/25/06 10:08:51 PM
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New In laptops?
I haven't done much reading on this recently, but my gut feeling is that AMD is still catching up with Intel on laptop CPU power consumption, chipsets, and functionality. Laptops are very important to Apple, so it's not surprising that they went with Intel (notwithstanding AMD's desktop performance and headroom advantages at the moment).

[googlie-goo]

[link|http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=28624|Charlie seems to agree.]

FWIW.

Cheers,
Scott.
Post #242,514
by admin
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1/25/06 10:11:17 PM
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New True, I was thinking more of the desktops.
Regards,

-scott anderson

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Post #242,555
by inthane-chan
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1/26/06 12:27:59 PM
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New The way I've heard it...
...is that Apple is more interested in Intel due to the chips Intel makes that are used in the IPod - that those represent a much more lucrative market than Apple's computers do.
When somebody asks you to trade your freedoms for security, it isn't your security they're talking about.
Post #242,586
by tonytib
1/26/06 3:35:12 PM
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New Your sources are dreaming
and need to do some real research.

I don't know of any Intel chips that are currently used in the iPod. First, this doesn't make sense: the only thing Intel currently makes that might be used in an iPod is the Xscale processor, which is frankly overkill. No surprise, iPods don't use XScale, and probably never will.

Second, tear down analysis shows no sign of any Intel chips:

[link|http://www.eetimes.com/news/latest/business/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=172303152|http://www.eetimes.c...ticleID=172303152]
[link|http://www.eetimes.com/news/latest/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=171100335|http://www.eetimes.c...ticleID=171100335]
[link|http://www.eetimes.com/news/design/technology/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=171100127|http://www.eetimes.c...ticleID=171100127]
[link|http://www.eetimes.com/news/semi/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=60403270|http://www.eetimes.c...rticleID=60403270]

The only chips likely to go into future iPods are flash memory from the joint Micron/Intel deal (which Apple prepaid something like $1.25 billion), and there's no reason for Apple to use Intel x86 processors just to get (currently non-existent) Intel NAND flash, which Samsung and Toshiba are quite happy to supply.

--Tony
     New beret will have Intel inside - (rcareaga) - (26) - Jan. 21, 2006, 08:53:21 PM EST
         Whew! You're brave. - (Another Scott) - (2) - Jan. 21, 2006, 09:03:32 PM EST
             Not so brave as all that - (rcareaga) - Jan. 21, 2006, 09:57:48 PM EST
             Should be fast enough - (SpiceWare) - Jan. 21, 2006, 10:45:29 PM EST
         Sweet. Enjoy! -NT - (Meerkat) - Jan. 22, 2006, 12:24:17 AM EST
         Set your expectations to, at best, G5 + 20 percent.. - (a6l6e6x) - (4) - Jan. 22, 2006, 08:22:10 PM EST
             Wonder how multithreaded code performs - (SpiceWare) - Jan. 22, 2006, 08:36:21 PM EST
             expectations are a moving target - (rcareaga) - (2) - Jan. 23, 2006, 09:01:15 PM EST
                 Easy for you to say. - (a6l6e6x) - Jan. 23, 2006, 10:19:09 PM EST
                 Yeah... - (pwhysall) - Jan. 24, 2006, 01:15:35 AM EST
         short rations indeed - (cforde) - (2) - Jan. 22, 2006, 11:05:41 PM EST
             shorter than you think - (rcareaga) - (1) - Jan. 23, 2006, 09:25:31 PM EST
                 ouch! I really need an upgrade myself - (boxley) - Jan. 23, 2006, 10:00:33 PM EST
         Ouch! - (admin) - (11) - Jan. 24, 2006, 08:54:50 PM EST
             The number of "show stoppers" is disgusting! - (a6l6e6x) - (7) - Jan. 25, 2006, 09:11:43 PM EST
                 Shame on Apple too. - (admin) - (6) - Jan. 25, 2006, 09:18:56 PM EST
                     AMD has issues too - (SpiceWare) - (5) - Jan. 25, 2006, 09:55:30 PM EST
                         Over what period of time? - (admin) - (4) - Jan. 25, 2006, 10:03:19 PM EST
                             In laptops? - (Another Scott) - (3) - Jan. 25, 2006, 10:08:51 PM EST
                                 True, I was thinking more of the desktops. -NT - (admin) - Jan. 25, 2006, 10:11:17 PM EST
                                 The way I've heard it... - (inthane-chan) - (1) - Jan. 26, 2006, 12:27:59 PM EST
                                     Your sources are dreaming - (tonytib) - Jan. 26, 2006, 03:35:12 PM EST
             34 is pretty low, actually. -NT - (pwhysall) - (2) - Jan. 26, 2006, 01:46:00 AM EST
                 Immediately after release? - (admin) - (1) - Jan. 26, 2006, 08:24:06 AM EST
                     before, actually - (SpiceWare) - Jan. 26, 2006, 10:55:51 AM EST
         Slow boat from China - (rcareaga) - (1) - Jan. 29, 2006, 04:00:00 PM EST
             Care to try out the HD samples when you get it? - (SpiceWare) - Jan. 30, 2006, 02:19:34 PM EST

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