Post #240,693
1/7/06 2:59:24 PM
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Found me some Szechuan peppercorns . . .
. . just labeled "Dried Pepper" They've been illegal to import into the U.S. for a couple years, but can now be brought in if they've been heat treated to 140°F which may or may not degrade potency - opinions seemed to be without evidence last I checked.
The heat treatment is supposed to turn them beige but these are distinctly reddish. I munched a couple to check potency, and if they were much more potent you'd need to wear a hazmat suit to handle them. Took my mouth about 10 minutes to recover.
They're not actually peppercorns, they're tiny citrus fruits (well Rue fruits anyway, citrus are members of the Rue family). That's where the problem came in, they were suspected of being able to carry citrus canker - unproven as far as I know.
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Post #240,699
1/7/06 4:41:03 PM
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Just curious
When you want to see if the cast iron pan is hot enough yet, do you test it by pressing your open palm into the center?
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Post #240,701
1/7/06 4:43:28 PM
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LOL
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Post #240,705
1/7/06 5:52:06 PM
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Hot iron = actual physical damage.
Hot spices = no actual damage - and - "The road to wisdom lies through excess". How you gonna know how much is too much unless you've experienced how much is too much?
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Post #240,763
1/8/06 4:38:57 PM
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Aren't there some plants that cause blisters?
If you ate berries from a poison ivy plant -- assuming they have berries -- I'd expect the taste would be intense. But it's not something I plan to find out myself.
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Post #240,764
1/8/06 4:55:40 PM
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Different
The oil in poison ivy triggers an immune system response - it thinks your skin is an invader. So it has to kill it.
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Post #240,767
1/8/06 5:15:13 PM
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Poison Ivy berries are indeed toxic . . .
. . and cause a rash, but they are not generally found packaged as a spice.
The berries are probably not intensely flavored and are eaten by birds and other animals. The toxin actually triggers an alergy in humans that most animals are immune to.
Poison Ivy is related to Cashews (parts are highly toxic), Mangos (not generally toxic) and Sumac. The berries of some Near Eastern varieties of sumac are used as a souring agent similar to lemon but American varieties contain the alergin.
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Post #240,794
1/8/06 9:24:47 PM
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You're much too trusting of what other people will eat
It was in a package, so it must be safe? Holy shit, gimme a few minutes with my printer and some labels, and I'll have some really exceiting stuff for you to try.
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Post #240,804
1/8/06 9:40:29 PM
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Please be aware, sir, they had already passed visual . . .
. . under magnification. And of course it was mislabled - Sichuan peppercorns always are - ever since the Feds started messing around with them. These packages were labled "dried pepper" and racked with the chilis. If I hadn't been looking for them specifically I'd have never seen them.
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Post #240,721
1/7/06 10:53:18 PM
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In Sichuan, called hua jiao and considered anesthetic
"numbs your tongue" according to my source, which is backed up this article [link|http://www.uni-graz.at/~katzer/engl/generic_frame.html?Zant_pip.html|http://www.uni-graz....tml?Zant_pip.html]
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Post #240,725
1/8/06 1:22:59 AM
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Yes, the U.S. native version has been used for . . .
. . toothache potions, though not for cooking. Haven't seen any so I can't say how it compares to the Chinese for flavor. Anyway, I can now vouch for the anesthetic effect firsthand.
These fruits are considered essential to Sichuan (formerly Szechuan) and Hunan cooking and are an essential ingredient in a proper Chinese 5 spices powder (though I notice many commercial versions omit it).
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