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I did a presentation on "dress" with both ends... business casual and business formal (coat and tie or suit). In each case, the "suit" was deemed more believeable, reliable, accurate, trustworthy, and convincing. Even when the casual was the expert.

And as Andrew stated, the tie allows him to bill and extra $20/hr. With the tie, you're professional. Without you're just "good".

I only were ties when I am going to be making a senior management presentation.
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Expand Edited by jbrabeck Oct. 20, 2005, 05:44:08 PM EDT
New So they become ties in the full moon?
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         Oh don't say that - (drewk)
         Those tired old office cronies... - (bepatient)
         Shouldn't that be . . . - (Andrew Grygus)
         Great! But take care of your feet. - (Another Scott) - (2)
             Great minds.. - (Ashton)
             Not to worry - (bionerd)
         You go, Girl! - (imqwerky)
         no klacking please we're thinking... - (cforde) - (106)
             Sorry, I'll try to klack quietly - (bionerd) - (105)
                 all these years I thought the only reason ya'll wore em - (boxley)
                 It is not impossible - (ben_tilly) - (2)
                     yeah, but that hurts even more. -NT - (bionerd) - (1)
                         But it gets a nice swivel going -NT - (drewk)
                 I doubt most men here wear ties to work -NT - (tonytib) - (9)
                     My current job has taught me the following mantra: - (Yendor) - (1)
                         may you be gainfully employed as long as you wish -NT - (boxley)
                     I figure the tie allows me to bill . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (2)
                         So how much is the Helmet & Cigar worth? -NT - (ChrisR) - (1)
                             Priceless -NT - (Andrew Grygus)
                     Yes for office, no for site -NT - (pwhysall)
                     Men have worn ties in every office I've worked in - (bionerd) - (2)
                         Re: Men have worn ties... - (rcareaga) - (1)
                             Run! . . . Oh, never mind. -NT - (Silverlock)
                 I haven't worn a tie for over 9 years - (cforde) - (90)
                     Yes - (Andrew Grygus) - (2)
                         Bravo!!!! - (bionerd)
                         Wahka Wahka Wahka! - (imqwerky)
                     Last two places I've worked don't require ties. - (Meerkat) - (86)
                         Ties are designed to go out of fashion whether worn or not. - (Another Scott) - (85)
                             Thanks to 'casual Friday'... - (Meerkat) - (84)
                                 :-) -NT - (Another Scott)
                                 A man in a sharp suit and tie - (bionerd) - (82)
                                     once had an white silk suit - (boxley) - (7)
                                         Why on earth would you have a white silk suit? - (bionerd) - (6)
                                             70's think Truman Capote meets Carlo Gambino -NT - (boxley) - (5)
                                                 The book! -NT - (inthane-chan) - (2)
                                                     The look, not the meeting of two literary giants - (boxley)
                                                     Why not?If the story is good,then the more of it the better! -NT - (CRConrad)
                                                 Ooooo foxy! -NT - (bionerd) - (1)
                                                     Ewww, creepy -NT - (drewk)
                                     I feel like I'm being strangled when I wear a tie -NT - (ben_tilly) - (73)
                                         I feel businesslike when I'm wearing one. - (pwhysall) - (13)
                                             Ditto - (jbrabeck) - (1)
                                                 So they become ties in the full moon? -NT - (drewk)
                                             Yeah, well, but isn't that a *stupid* feeling? - (CRConrad) - (9)
                                                 If you're get'n strangled . . . - (Andrew Grygus)
                                                 Not at all. - (pwhysall) - (6)
                                                     Ring Ring Ring Ring Ring Ring Ring. :-D -NT - (Another Scott)
                                                     Clean Coveralls with a nametag give the same impression of - (boxley) - (2)
                                                         On the shop floor, sure. -NT - (pwhysall)
                                                         And you can collect the brooms people hand you. -NT - (Andrew Grygus)
                                                     The "opening your mouth" comment is more true there - (ben_tilly) - (1)
                                                         Thing of the past, by and large. -NT - (pwhysall)
                                                 Appearances matter. 24 kB .imgs. - (Another Scott)
                                             For me it's a matter of habit. - (ChrisR)
                                         You are -NT - (broomberg) - (3)
                                             Only if you let it be that way. - (pwhysall) - (2)
                                                 pehaps its comfortable because you have a neck :0 -NT - (boxley) - (1)
                                                     More likely a pencil neck -NT - (broomberg)
                                         I'm so used to it I don't notice it. - (Andrew Grygus)
                                         Know the feeling. - (Another Scott) - (2)
                                             Get ONE nice fitted shirt for those special occassions. - (jbrabeck)
                                             I'm with ya. - (Yendor)
                                         Your instincts are functioning normally, then.. Ties Kill - (Ashton) - (50)
                                             It is not exaggerated - (ben_tilly) - (49)
                                                 Try wearing a bra - (bionerd) - (48)
                                                     Well I don't insist that women wear bras... -NT - (ben_tilly)
                                                     So what kind of bra is required for business wear? - (tonytib) - (45)
                                                         You're just looking to improve your work fantasies. -NT - (ben_tilly) - (43)
                                                             Nope, just curious - (tonytib) - (42)
                                                                 Since you asked - (bionerd) - (41)
                                                                     Pah. - (admin) - (32)
                                                                         You iron? - (bionerd) - (31)
                                                                             irons are needed for tshirt transfers only -NT - (boxley)
                                                                             Have to ask - (jbrabeck) - (20)
                                                                                 Nobody did. - (bionerd) - (19)
                                                                                     You think none of us ever "knew" Catholic girls? -NT - (drewk) - (17)
                                                                                         Well, nobody knew me until I was 20. -NT - (bionerd) - (11)
                                                                                             *CRACKLE*That's a TMI violation in sector 4-b*POP* -NT - (inthane-chan) - (9)
                                                                                                 Double standard! Double standard! - (bionerd) - (8)
                                                                                                     No, there's nothing standard about the Box -NT - (drewk)
                                                                                                     we just didnt want to know about all that wasted time, - (boxley)
                                                                                                     So.... - (bepatient)
                                                                                                     I got tired of being offended by him a long time ago -NT - (ben_tilly)
                                                                                                     Re: Double standard! Biker bashing! - (Ashton) - (2)
                                                                                                         Yeah, I majored in animal husbandry . . . - (Andrew Grygus)
                                                                                                         On the contrary - (bionerd)
                                                                                                     Nope. - (inthane-chan)
                                                                                             Now I have Lyle Lovett running through my head... - (ben_tilly)
                                                                                         Irish Catholic girls....... ah.... the memories..... ;-) -NT - (n3jja) - (2)
                                                                                             Where are they now? Will they all take a bow! - (bepatient)
                                                                                             Agreed -NT - (broomberg)
                                                                                         Let's hear it for my German Catholic brethren. - (imqwerky) - (1)
                                                                                             Not like les quebecois - (jake123)
                                                                                     And I was a good Catholic boy... ;-) -NT - (jbrabeck)
                                                                             Every (work) day. - (Meerkat) - (8)
                                                                                 That's what I did when I had to - (ben_tilly)
                                                                                 spend a couple of pence on wrinkle free shirts - (boxley) - (3)
                                                                                     Yick - (broomberg)
                                                                                     Or buy that Downy wrinkle release spray - (bionerd) - (1)
                                                                                         But it doesn't do creases - (drewk)
                                                                                 I don't mind ironing a basketful. - (static) - (2)
                                                                                     Actually find it rather relaxing - (bepatient) - (1)
                                                                                         *nod* - (static)
                                                                     Panty lines? Isn't that a reason for thongs? - (tonytib) - (7)
                                                                         Thongs! Dont you even get me started on thongs! - (bionerd) - (6)
                                                                             Off topic - (Silverlock)
                                                                             I'll ask - (tonytib) - (4)
                                                                                 Really big what? -NT - (jbrabeck)
                                                                                 Flip flops? I thought we were talking about bras. -NT - (drewk) - (2)
                                                                                     bras hold the flip flops -NT - (boxley) - (1)
                                                                                         thats a sign of age! -NT - (bepatient)
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