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New Back in '98
I drove to Lubbock because my brother used to play golf with a Nissan sales guy. He made me a deal I couldn't refuse...$100 over invoice. He sold cars all day long...same deal. He made all the money he wanted and then moved on to something else.

The fun part was driving a new Altima home to surprise Mr. Critter. :-) That sucker was loaded and all I paid was 16K + change. Saaaawwwweeeeeet!

Peace,
Amy

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New everyone here knows that "invoice" is kack right?
the car on the lot is leased from the dealer for about $300 (varies by model) dealer never really "owns" the inventory. Invoice to dealer is prety much what they want it to be.
thanx,
bill
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New Which is why you pay CU or probably several others, now
for a breakdown of as near Actual dealer cost (with known kickbacks, perks, 'incentives' and other tomfoolery -- itemized) as you are apt to get, on your own.

Save that $12-25 First expense - at a high cost.
As you say, "Dealer Invoice 'cost'" is about as useful as a promise to be a uniter not a divider.

New If he wants a Toy, he should remember BT's recent experience
[link|http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/content/show?contentid=209869|#209869].

Bottom line - The "invoice" price doesn't tell you everything you need to know about what the dealer will accept for a car. It's still a crap shoot even when you have all the public info.

:-/

Cheers,
Scott.
New Dealer Holdback
There's something called "dealer holdback". There's a website that gives the amount or percent of holdback by Manufacturer. Here's a writeup on it from the Edmunds site. [link|http://www.edmunds.com/advice/incentives/holdback|Holdback]

Usually, $100 over invoice is about as good as it gets, unless you find a day that noone is buying. A very wet, bad weather day. If the dealer hasn't made their sales quota, end of month can be promising, too.

My wife is the queen of negotiations. She won't buy unless she's in the holdback. My mother had a deal on a used car about 2 years ago. Before she said "yes", she called my wife and my wife managed to get an additional $2000 off of the deal.

Glen Austin
Expand Edited by gdaustin Sept. 7, 2005, 11:06:17 PM EDT
New When I bought my minivan...
I walked out of the office. There was still 2K on the table and I wasn't going to budge. The guy kept calling me..."How 'bout we tint the windows fer ya?" To which I replied,"Timmy, Timmy, Timmy. Tinted windows are standard on this model. Buh Bye!"

This went on until the middle of the month when he finally relented.

As Peter Venkmann said, "Back off, man. I'm a scientist." Don't mess with me when I'm bargaining. You will end up with a bloody stump.

Peace,
me

Pray for the survivors of Katrina.
New ICLRPD. (new thread)
Created as new thread #223603 titled [link|/forums/render/content/show?contentid=223603|ICLRPD.]
     Are car dealers haggling anymore? - (mmoffitt) - (24)
         down here lots of haggle room, was at the ford dealer monday - (boxley)
         I'm about to go used. - (inthane-chan) - (7)
             they dont "make" it back with the financing - (boxley)
             I think you'll have trouble finding a diesel Toyo or Honda. - (Another Scott) - (5)
                 Two things I'm looking for: - (inthane-chan) - (4)
                     spend 4k more and get new - (boxley) - (2)
                         Because 6k is pushing it. - (inthane-chan) - (1)
                             You can probably get a 2000 Corolla for ~ $4 - 5k. - (Another Scott)
                     Old Joke: Pick 2: (Reliable, Fuel Efficient, Inexpensive) -NT - (Another Scott)
         Driven a '05 - (Ashton)
         Do your homework first. - (Yendor) - (6)
             Seconded: seen it Work 3x now. Any less effort: Lose$$ -NT - (Ashton)
             Definitely don't do that - (ben_tilly) - (4)
                 I don't think he said that you should - (Ashton)
                 Re: Definitely don't do that - (Yendor) - (2)
                     Good advice. - (mmoffitt)
                     Miscommunication, I was agreeing with you -NT - (ben_tilly)
         Back in '98 - (imqwerky) - (6)
             everyone here knows that "invoice" is kack right? - (boxley) - (5)
                 Which is why you pay CU or probably several others, now - (Ashton) - (1)
                     If he wants a Toy, he should remember BT's recent experience - (Another Scott)
                 Dealer Holdback - (gdaustin) - (2)
                     When I bought my minivan... - (imqwerky) - (1)
                         ICLRPD. (new thread) - (Another Scott)

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