Some hockey talk...Finally!

Post #216,543 by lister 7/26/05 4:30:19 PM Reply	Some hockey talk...Finally! Now that the stupidness is finally over real hockey talk can resume. Huzzah! I was listening in on the draft lottery reveal countdown hoping that the Leafs at least get into the top three if not the golden prize but alas I was crushed to hear the Leafs called at 21. On the positive side that's up four spots from where they would have been drafting based on the standings two years ago. I was starting to get a little nervous as the top ten approached and Ottawa hadn't been called yet. I think most sane Leaf fans wouldn't have minded Sydney Crosby (The Next One) going to any of the other Canadian teams except for Ottawa. Gah, Ottawa fans are a bunch of pissants who have huge inferiority complexes and feel the need to put down the Leafs and their fans rather than put up Ottawa. Maybe it's just frustration at living in such a shitty town. Dunno, don't care. Anyways I was relieved when they were called at ninth spot. The lottery teased Montreal and Crosby (he's a Habs fan) until the fifth spot. In the end the Penguins got the first pick. Lucky for you Nightowl. At least they NEED a player like that. Ah well. Some rumours now have lots of players wanting to play in Toronto. I guess we'll see just how much that want to if they're not going to garner potentially as high a salary as elsewhere. Gonchar has expressed interest which would make for a nice addition to the blue line, Forsberg and Markus Nasland (and/or maybe Selanne) are rumoured to be shopping themselves as a package to play with Mats Sundin which apparently will cause some major spooging of the Swedish hockey fans. I got a little excited at that prospect myself too this morning while the clock radio blared away. :-) And have I mentioned before that I'll be seeing Saturday night Leafs games in glorious HD thanks to my tax dollars at CBC? Hopefully Sportsnet and TSN step up too. I've been waiting two years for this! lister
Post #216,624 by mmoffitt 7/27/05 9:27:47 AM Reply	ABF. Anybody But Forsberg. How could you want that turd on the bench for the Leafs? Anyway, I thought his head injuries were making him retire? bcnu, Mikem It would seem, therefore, that the three human impulses embodied in religion are fear, conceit, and hatred. The purpose of religion, one might say, is to give an air of respectibility to these passions. -- Bertrand Russell
Post #216,682 by lister 7/27/05 4:05:17 PM Reply	ABF? Pourquoi? How has he achieved turd status? Apparently his head is feeling much better now. lister
Post #216,685 by mmoffitt 7/27/05 4:18:08 PM Reply	Sorry, I don't like divers. And cry-babies. And he's both. bcnu, Mikem It would seem, therefore, that the three human impulses embodied in religion are fear, conceit, and hatred. The purpose of religion, one might say, is to give an air of respectibility to these passions. -- Bertrand Russell
Post #216,663 by mmoffitt 7/27/05 2:32:35 PM Reply	And the Schedule is out! Leafs open at home against the Sens. [link\|http://www.nhl.com/schedules/index.html\|http://www.nhl.com/schedules/index.html] bcnu, Mikem It would seem, therefore, that the three human impulses embodied in religion are fear, conceit, and hatred. The purpose of religion, one might say, is to give an air of respectibility to these passions. -- Bertrand Russell
Post #216,665 by Yendor 7/27/05 2:36:03 PM Reply	Aye... :( And the Rangers don't play at Chicago. Sukc. -YendorMike "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin, 1759 Historical Review of Pennsylvania
Post #216,683 by mmoffitt 7/27/05 4:05:29 PM Reply	No Wings/Leafs either. bcnu, Mikem It would seem, therefore, that the three human impulses embodied in religion are fear, conceit, and hatred. The purpose of religion, one might say, is to give an air of respectibility to these passions. -- Bertrand Russell
Post #216,684 by boxley 7/27/05 4:10:08 PM Reply	How can they have a season without the original 6? playing each other at least once? The viewership for a wings/leafs game is gonna be much higher than a thrasher/grizzly matchup. NHL is still clueless about marketing the product. thanx, bill Just call me Mr. Lynch \\ Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free american and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 49 years. meep questions, help? [link\|mailto:pappas@catholic.org\|email pappas at catholic.org]
Post #216,686 by mmoffitt 7/27/05 4:19:07 PM Reply	Agree. Also don't see why we need more than the original 6. bcnu, Mikem It would seem, therefore, that the three human impulses embodied in religion are fear, conceit, and hatred. The purpose of religion, one might say, is to give an air of respectibility to these passions. -- Bertrand Russell
Post #216,700 by lister 7/27/05 5:39:41 PM Reply	Well there are some good teams outside the original six It would be a damn shame to eliminate the other Canadian teams outside of Toronto and Montreal. Various other American teams have proven themselves too. Minnesota is a hockey market. Jacques Lemaire just needs to be fired so that the Wild can have some offense. Tampa Bay gets in because they won the Cup and have some excellent players. The NHL has to kick out Dollar Bill Wirtz and get a new owner, how about Marc Cuban instead? Lastly, LA and SJ stays put due to the sheer number of Canucks out on the American left coast, damnit they deserve some hockey too! If I was the HOCKEY GOD I'd do the following: Eliminate: Pittsburgh, Buffalo, Atlanta, Carolina, Washington Nashville, Columbus, Anaheim, Phoenix, Florida To the hockey fans in those cities, tough titties! Go move to a real hockey market! Have a dispersal draft of those eliminated teams players. Do it draft lottery style except that each team has one ball each for each round rather than the weighted Sydney Crosby sweepstakes. Redraw for each additional round. Institute a buyout plan to eliminate those marginal players from the remaining teams rosters. Go enjoy the various minor leagues you useless carpet baggers where you rightfully belong. Gee, watch how the level of play and offense creeps up again. The new standings: EASTERN CONFERENCE NORTH EASTERN Boston Detroit Montreal Ottawa Toronto ATLANTIC New Jersey NY Islanders NY Rangers Philadelphia Tampa Bay WESTERN CONFERENCE CENTRAL Chicago Colorado Dallas Minnesota St. Louis PACIFIC Calgary Edmonton Los Angeles San Jose Vancouver Shorten the season down to 60 games or so. It would be nice to have a winner ahead of 25C weather. The schedule will be slightly weighted for conference play but the out of conference teams will play each other at least twice during the season so that each team gets a home date. Give Calgary, Edmonton and Vancouver an extra home date with the Leafs. All existing and new rules stand with the following changes. Eliminate the instigator rule but make blatant cheapshots punishment very harsh like suspension for the rest of the season and playoffs or carry over into next season if the season is late already. Slashing calls get a full two minutes penalty. Helmets are optional for regular season shootouts and the All-Star game. Maybe some more changes when I think of them. Playoffs: The top eleven teams overall get in. Winning your division means nothing! Weak division winners should not be rewarded with a playoff berth. The first overall team gets a first round by. Best of five for the first round. Best of seven for the remaining rounds. This ain't rocket science folks. lister
Post #216,705 by mmoffitt 7/27/05 5:57:15 PM Reply	I don't think The Great One would like you killing the dogs. And I am quite amused that 4 of the original six end up in your conference. That was just coincidence, right? The original six is really all that's needed. But, I agree that losing the other Canadian teams would be a shame (although how many of them do you expect to make money this year - i.e., how many are in "real hockey" markets?). I'd be willing to keep all the Canadian teams because we owe them for giving us the greatest game in the world, so here's the new conferences: EASTERN CONFERENCE Toronto Boston NY Rangers Montreal Ottawa WESTERN CONFERENCE Detroit Chicago Calgary Edmonton Vancouver Each team plays every team at home and away at least once. 40 season games (make 'em mean something). Top 2 from each Conference play and guess what? The Octopus means something again. bcnu, Mikem It would seem, therefore, that the three human impulses embodied in religion are fear, conceit, and hatred. The purpose of religion, one might say, is to give an air of respectibility to these passions. -- Bertrand Russell
Post #217,182 by lister 8/3/05 9:30:47 AM Reply	Tough luck for him He should have bought into a better hockey market. As for four of the original six ending up in the eastern conference, well that's just the geography card being played. Gutting the league down to ten teams is a little extreme and may prove to be a little boring. lister
Post #217,184 by mmoffitt 8/3/05 9:44:15 AM Reply	I don't think so. I think it would improve the level of play at the NHL, AHL and IHL levels. bcnu, Mikem It would seem, therefore, that the three human impulses embodied in religion are fear, conceit, and hatred. The purpose of religion, one might say, is to give an air of respectibility to these passions. -- Bertrand Russell
Post #217,418 by lister 8/4/05 10:32:55 AM Reply	Axing ten teams is enough That's roughly 11 players for each of the remaining 20 teams. The more marginal players will be sent down to the AHL as well as many of the rookies who shouldn't be playing in the NHL yet. That'll bump various players from the AHL down to the ECHL, etc. lister
Post #216,822 by Nightowl 8/1/05 1:39:28 PM Reply	Auuugh! If I was the HOCKEY GOD I'd do the following: Eliminate: Pittsburgh, Buffalo,... No!!!! You can't delete my Penguins!!!! I wouldn't be able to see Mario!!!! ;) Brenda "I see little yellow butterflies fluttering round my head and hear little happy bluebirds singing overhead....all will be just fine!... Hmmmm someone get me a net!"
Post #217,414 by lister 8/4/05 10:18:52 AM Reply	Toast! Sure you could still see Mario, assuming he still wanted to play, he'd be on another team due to the dispersal draft. Of course since he'd no longer have any financial interest in a team he'd probably retire. lister
Post #216,734 by imqwerky 7/27/05 11:04:18 PM Reply	GO STARS! "Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well-preserved body, but, rather to skid in sideways totally worn out shouting 'Merde Sante, what a ride!'" .
Post #216,842 by jbrabeck 8/1/05 2:26:21 PM Reply	They've already gone The NORTH Stars died was went to ... A good friend will come and bail you out of jail ... but, a true friend will be sitting next to you saying, "Damn...that was fun!"
Post #216,892 by imqwerky 8/1/05 7:30:38 PM Reply	That would be the DALLAS STARS you pidgeon-chested little tosser! Better get used to it. :0) Peas, Amy "Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well-preserved body, but, rather to skid in sideways totally worn out shouting 'Merde Sante, what a ride!'" .
Post #216,901 by mmoffitt 8/1/05 8:42:31 PM Reply	Hockey doesn't belong where it doesn't snow. What happens when the Cup goes somewhere it never snows (Tampa Bay)? God gets angry. She makes us do without hockey for a whole year. Let that be a lesson to us. bcnu, Mikem It would seem, therefore, that the three human impulses embodied in religion are fear, conceit, and hatred. The purpose of religion, one might say, is to give an air of respectibility to these passions. -- Bertrand Russell
Post #216,963 by boxley 8/2/05 9:16:34 AM Reply	would you like a snivel with that drivel? Just call me Mr. Lynch \\ Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free american and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 49 years. meep questions, help? [link\|mailto:pappas@catholic.org\|email pappas at catholic.org]
Post #216,997 by mmoffitt 8/2/05 10:24:00 AM Reply	Dem's just da facts, man ;0) bcnu, Mikem It would seem, therefore, that the three human impulses embodied in religion are fear, conceit, and hatred. The purpose of religion, one might say, is to give an air of respectibility to these passions. -- Bertrand Russell
Post #216,820 by Nightowl 8/1/05 1:36:58 PM Reply	Re: Some hockey talk...Finally! Now that the stupidness is finally over real hockey talk can resume. Huzzah!...In the end the Penguins got the first pick. Lucky for you Nightowl. At least they NEED a player like that. Ah well. YEAH! I thought that was really awesome! Now we have Fleury AND this new guy! This will be a great season for Mario's boys! I can't wait till they drop the puck! I've been so excited about this! Brenda "I see little yellow butterflies fluttering round my head and hear little happy bluebirds singing overhead....all will be just fine!... Hmmmm someone get me a net!"
Post #217,005 by bepatient 8/2/05 10:33:07 AM Reply	Hockey stinks. (chuckle) If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. _{Fudd's First Law of Opposition} [link\|mailto:bepatient@aol.com\|BePatient]
Post #217,035 by mmoffitt 8/2/05 12:16:20 PM Reply	Crap. Made me look :0( bcnu, Mikem It would seem, therefore, that the three human impulses embodied in religion are fear, conceit, and hatred. The purpose of religion, one might say, is to give an air of respectibility to these passions. -- Bertrand Russell

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