Post #206,137
5/5/05 5:31:53 PM
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Yep :-)
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Post #206,144
5/5/05 6:36:18 PM
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37% = 3rd term
Just a few thoughts,
Danno
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Post #206,164
5/5/05 9:03:15 PM
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And that's apparently all they're going to get.
The BBC projected that Labour would win with 37 percent of the popular vote, the lowest winning share ever. The Conservatives, showing their first signs of life since losing power eight years ago, were projected to take 33 percent. [link|http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/05/05/world/main693299.shtml|http://www.cbsnews.c.../main693299.shtml] bcnu,
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Post #206,289
5/6/05 12:53:28 PM
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IT'S A MANDATE!!! :-D
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Post #206,222
5/6/05 1:12:05 AM
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Woot! Most MPs since 1918!
Yes, I voted Liberal Democrat.
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Post #206,290
5/6/05 12:55:33 PM
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hoe can you be both a liberal and a democrat /me dux :-)
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Post #206,300
5/6/05 2:01:55 PM
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Doncha unnerstan Engrish English? a.k.a. King's English?:-)
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Post #206,301
5/6/05 2:03:17 PM
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You probably know this but...
liberal means something very different in England than it does in the USA.
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Ben
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Post #206,305
5/6/05 2:13:09 PM
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Ya mean
they don't have hooves, horns and a tail? They don't carry pitchforks and eat babies? Weird.
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Post #206,322
5/6/05 5:28:50 PM
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Heh
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Post #206,313
5/6/05 4:00:32 PM
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Yep, the Murican translation of Britain's "Liberal" is ...
communist.
bcnu,
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Post #206,314
5/6/05 4:06:56 PM
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communist is whitehouse not the english, they are socialists
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Post #206,316
5/6/05 4:38:02 PM
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No. Bolshevik is whitehouse.
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Post #206,321
5/6/05 5:28:35 PM
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Wrong. Pretty much the opposite in fact.
The US translation of "liberal" in Europe is "libertarian".
Think The Economist. Think free as in "free market". Think of liberty from opressive government regulation.
Cheers,
Ben
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Post #206,604
5/9/05 9:36:59 AM
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Your opinion does not count.
You live in the People's Republic of California. I, OTOH, am firmly in the heart of Jesusland where we know a pinko when we see one.
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Post #206,624
5/9/05 12:00:14 PM
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To clarify
You think that a US libertarian (small government, maximal personal freedom etc) is the political equivalent of the Liberal Democrat party in the UK?
Not so. The Lib Dems are substantially to the left of Labour, these days.
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Post #206,626
5/9/05 12:02:10 PM
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would that be left or right to a glaswegian shop steward?
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Post #206,627
5/9/05 12:02:44 PM
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Right, of course ;-)
Everything's to the right of one of those.
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Post #206,636
5/9/05 1:51:04 PM
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I don't know the specifics of UK political parties
All that I know is that the usage of "liberal" both historically and through much of Europe today does not bear much resemblance to what most in the USA think of it as.
Cheers,
Ben
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Post #206,637
5/9/05 2:01:24 PM
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True for Canada as well
Liberal in Canada means something quite different than it does in the US.
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Post #206,639
5/9/05 2:02:58 PM
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OK
Wasn't being snarky, was just trying to work out what you meant.
The LDs are very social, progressive, inclusive and other ives and isms. They actually have a penny on income tax in their manifesto. They're not at all in favour of small government or personal freedom at any cost.
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Post #206,785
5/10/05 10:34:01 AM
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What "most in the USA think of it"????
We, as in "Santa Monica"???? You think that's representative? Hmmm, was the Santa Monica vote in 2004 also representative of "most in the USA"?
Ya know, I can see why linc gets put off by your arrogance from time to time.
"Liberal" to the majority in the US not living in the more progressive Left coast means, "virtually Socialist." And for most in the USA, a Socialist is indistinguishable from a Communist. And most in the USA have not the foggiest of notions what either of those words mean.
HTH.
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Post #206,888
5/11/05 1:00:29 AM
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It's worse than that - today,
My Gramma LIVES..
and her successors sport the *very same* phrases from Human Events 1950, asif Tailgunner Joe McCarthy were alive and presiding over the One Party with Two Right Wings. It's The Cold War deja vu:
Commies == 'Democrats' | Blue States (bit of a color oxymoron there)
Muricans == Repos | Red States (aprops of the Trotskyites at PNAC)
([link|http://www.humaneventsonline.com/article.php?id=3031| Ann Coulter] is.. toadytoday their Legal Affairs Correspondent !!!)
What else need be appended?
Verily I say unto thee,
We Be Fucked until..
Something Extraordinary\ufffd just ... 'Happens' out-of-the-Blue (Sky)
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