How do fail rates between SATA and SCSI compare?

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Post #206,070 by mmoffitt 5/5/05 10:03:06 AM Reply	How do fail rates between SATA and SCSI compare? bcnu, Mikem Eine Leute. Eine Welt. Ein F\ufffdhrer. God Bless America.
Post #206,080 by broomberg 5/5/05 11:01:19 AM Reply	Too soon I don't trust any accelerated testing, and the real world does not have enough SATA drives in enterprise environments to really know yet. Also, you sure you don't mean FC drives? Or are you being pitched SCSI drives?
Post #206,082 by mmoffitt 5/5/05 11:12:53 AM Reply	Yes, Typo, sorry. bcnu, Mikem Eine Leute. Eine Welt. Ein F\ufffdhrer. God Bless America.
Post #206,084 by broomberg 5/5/05 11:18:52 AM Reply	Here's what I did. I had them both pitch me SATA (IBM) and IDE (EMC) system. I then realized how piss-poor the IDE would run, so I had EMC pitch me the same size in FC drives, but told them I had very little leeway now that I told my boss how much I expected to spend, based on the IDE configuration. Got an incredible price. I then told IBM that EMC's FC price was way lower then their SATA price, and much better performing to boot. Which in turn drove that price much lower. Which I then pointed out to EMC - and so on. Note: I NEVER told the other a real price - that would be breaking the agreement with the vendor. I simply said the other more more attractive.
Post #206,098 by mmoffitt 5/5/05 1:04:28 PM Reply	What'd you end up with? bcnu, Mikem Eine Leute. Eine Welt. Ein F\ufffdhrer. God Bless America.
Post #206,120 by folkert 5/5/05 3:25:15 PM Reply	I think an EMC Clairion. -- [link\|mailto:greg@gregfolkert.net\|greg], [link\|http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry\|REMEMBER ED CURRY!] @ *i_wethey* [image\|http://www.danasoft.com/vipersig.jpg\|\|\|\|]
Post #206,124 by broomberg 5/5/05 3:39:22 PM Reply	2 of these [link\|http://www.emc.com/products/systems/clariion_cx700.jsp\|http://www.emc.com/p...lariion_cx700.jsp]

SAN Recommendations? - (mmoffitt) - (25) - May 4, 2005, 02:10:48 PM EDT

what kind of boxen will you be hooking up? - (boxley) - (4) - May 4, 2005, 02:29:17 PM EDT

That's a changin'. - (mmoffitt) - (3) - May 4, 2005, 02:37:33 PM EDT

well ibm stuff works best with ibm stuff in my opinion - (boxley) - (2) - May 4, 2005, 02:49:59 PM EDT

That's what I was thinking too. Thanks. -NT - (mmoffitt) - May 4, 2005, 03:08:00 PM EDT

I argue both sides of this. - (folkert) - May 4, 2005, 06:14:07 PM EDT

Naive question - Would NAS be sufficient? - (Another Scott) - (6) - May 4, 2005, 03:01:07 PM EDT

Not for our application. - (mmoffitt) - (5) - May 4, 2005, 03:16:16 PM EDT

What's the difference between SAN and NAS? -NT - (jbrabeck) - (4) - May 4, 2005, 03:30:46 PM EDT

dyslexia? -NT - (SpiceWare) - May 4, 2005, 03:35:59 PM EDT

Short answer: Lots of money. - (pwhysall) - (2) - May 4, 2005, 03:37:51 PM EDT

s/FDDI/Fibre Channel/ -NT - (broomberg) - May 4, 2005, 07:30:32 PM EDT

Thank you - (jbrabeck) - May 4, 2005, 08:16:37 PM EDT

That the Shark 2? Or What ever they call it now? - (folkert) - (12) - May 4, 2005, 06:06:10 PM EDT

Ya know, with all that ranting - - (broomberg) - (4) - May 4, 2005, 07:36:38 PM EDT

You know me... - (folkert) - May 4, 2005, 10:49:58 PM EDT

Stab at answers. - (mmoffitt) - (2) - May 5, 2005, 10:28:37 AM EDT

Have you been pitched a configuration with a price yet? - (broomberg) - May 5, 2005, 10:58:55 AM EDT

x445? - (broomberg) - May 5, 2005, 11:05:01 AM EDT

How do fail rates between SATA and SCSI compare? -NT - (mmoffitt) - (6) - May 5, 2005, 10:03:06 AM EDT

Too soon - (broomberg) - (5) - May 5, 2005, 11:01:19 AM EDT

Yes, Typo, sorry. -NT - (mmoffitt) - (4) - May 5, 2005, 11:12:53 AM EDT

Here's what I did. - (broomberg) - (3) - May 5, 2005, 11:18:52 AM EDT

What'd you end up with? -NT - (mmoffitt) - (2) - May 5, 2005, 01:04:28 PM EDT

I think an EMC Clairion. -NT - (folkert) - May 5, 2005, 03:25:15 PM EDT

2 of these - (broomberg) - May 5, 2005, 03:39:22 PM EDT

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