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New An Old Story Anti-Semitism, past and present
[link|http://www.nationalreview.com/comment/comment-schwartz120401.shtml|An Old Story Anti-Semitism, past and present]

New Xenophobia is everywhere. And everywhere denied.
And it always derives from the visceral fear of the unknown / the 'different'. Noticed immediately by any sentient person as - irrational, in every society there is another constant; that which supports the manifest contradictions within (also) every society: hypocrisy.

The first means of reconciling the irreconcilable is ever - the pollution of language, intentional distortion of the referents for critical words. Sloth takes care of the rest: the EZ Slogan replaces the more accurate phrase or paragraph - as might communicate something.

This is a nice screed (your link), goes much into these matters - but it is a tad too long for the avge. Murican attention span and 'logic' is never enough. The reason for intentional misuse of language is, clearly! in every case: to confound logic.

And G\ufffdbbels demonstrated how this intention may be converted to a process of great effectiveness. It is *his* Ministry of Propaganda which has brought us the Corporate rule over the ovine "consumer class": endlessly dazzled by the techno-New! that they just Gotta Have (or shall be called loosers, a scary Thing to be called, within a flock whom you wish to emulate).

Ditto with the morphing of antiSemitic behavior across the ages, and across the ecumenical, political and economic rationales, so nicely set out in Mr. Schwartz's brave attempt at an all-inclusive re-view of homo-sap depravity.

The Larger crime seems to be: homo-sap complicity in the destruction even.. of its own last chance for actual communication, thus survival: honest Language, defended against the despoilers (and their pecuniary, tawdry motivations).

Perhaps this essay is a further example of Gibbons's little quip, Instruction is of no use except in cases where it is superfluous.

{sigh}

The Israel Question is most often bandied about in these fora as elsewhere: via an endless juxtaposition of simplistic, anecdotal and ultimately futile stimulus/response exchanges. Ignorant armies clash by night, full of sound and fury signifying Nothing...

I've found excellent points in many of your posts, but.. I think Gibbon supersedes all such attempts. Murican politics is crammed full of duplicitous language barbarism, nowhere more evident than in the current President's asinine phrases about ~Winning the War Against Evil.

THAT frames well-enough the world of mass miscommunication we currently inhabit: aided and abetted as *never before*, by the propaganda boilerplating abilities of - the machines which most here owe their livelihoods to !?

Maybe you have to try. Personally I don't believe the species is sufficiently adult to merit self-government. (The emergent Corporate World Government shall do even worse - good luck to the survivors of That death-by banal Homogenization... if there are any?)



Ashton
New ho hum, those that want to kill us are almost as bad as
those who wish those perfidious Jews would "just go away" at least the former are honest in their distemper. I dont live in Israel but am dang glad it is there and if it looked like the Warsaw Ghetto anytime soon would be on the last plane in.
thanx,
bill
tshirt front "born to die before I get old"
thshirt back "fscked another one didnja?"
New Not to worry, Box. Israel is in no danger.
Past attempts to bring down have failed and it's only gotten stronger.

The problem is what it is doing with that strength. It is using it to rob others of their freedom, dignity, and even their lives to get their land. And, the Israelis of moral conscience that know better have been silenced. That's the tragedy.
Alex

Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from religious conviction. -- Blaise Pascal (1623-1662)
New question
since Israel has given up land to the PA for Oslo accords what land are they trying to get?
thanx,
bill
tshirt front "born to die before I get old"
thshirt back "fscked another one didnja?"
New Re: question
The occupied areas, i.e. land outside of Israel as established by UN in 1948. That includes East Jerusalem and all those places with settlements in Gaza and the West Bank.

Now, maybe there are some win/win agreements that can be made to change some boundaries. Nothing wrong with that. For one thing they need a land link between Gaza and West Bank. Just get the Palestinians to sign off on the deal. And, they need to have a sovereign state to make it legal.

Using military might to indefinitely hold or annex the occupied areas has been the major source of friction. Not to mention illegal under the [link|http://www.unhchr.ch/html/menu3/b/92.htm|Geneva Convention.]

Article 47

Protected persons who are in occupied territory shall not be deprived, in any case or in any manner whatsoever, of the benefits of the present Convention by any change introduced, as the result of the occupation of a territory, into the institutions or government of the said territory, nor by any agreement concluded between the authorities of the occupied territories and the Occupying Power, nor by any annexation by the latter of the whole or part of the occupied territory.
There are UN resolutions about this as well.
Alex

Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from religious conviction. -- Blaise Pascal (1623-1662)
New So the Brit Occupation of Northern Ireland is illegal?
this is fun. So only since the geneva was signed, ok when does Saipan go back? China has no right to Taiwan and the Taiwan Chinese have no right to the Island either. Tibet must be returned and Alaskan native entities must have sovreignty even though the treaty was made in 1970 and broken immediately and the USSC refuses to recognise said sovreignty said Judgement written by Thomas the Mute. Jordan must be in charge of the west bank then since they were the Sovreign government during the 67 war. The PA doesnt appear to be run by hashemite King? What gives? Ya think the Geneva convention applies? Why? Is the PLO and Israel signatories to that treaty? How can a treaty of and by itself be enforced againsts non participatory non signers? I make a treaty with you to steal from the other guy, is that enforceable? Only with guns.
thanx,
bill
tshirt front "born to die before I get old"
thshirt back "fscked another one didnja?"
New Sorry, I am not authorized to solve all of worlds problems.
The State of Israel is a creation of the UN and if you had followed the link the Geneva Conventions conform to the UN Charter. To say the Geneva Conventions do not apply to Israel is to say that Arabs have the right to reclaim the land. You might say it would be pro-Hamas.

Trust me, the Geneva Conventions were not written to hamstring, if you'll pardon the pun, Israel.

So is it the rule of (world) law or the rule of the gun? There's pros and cons to each.

Salem Aleikum, er Shalom!
Alex

Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from religious conviction. -- Blaise Pascal (1623-1662)
New Re: ...the last plane in
True story. In the fall of 1967, I was going to an IBM school and one of the instructors was a "dual" citizen of US and Israel and a reserve officer in the IDF. He told us that during the 6-Day War he tried to get to Israel as quickly as he could. It wasn't easy. By the time he did get there, it was all over.

So, tune-up you war anticipator! :)

You'll need to fly in before the war starts.
Alex

Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from religious conviction. -- Blaise Pascal (1623-1662)
     An Old Story Anti-Semitism, past and present - (bluke) - (8)
         Xenophobia is everywhere. And everywhere denied. - (Ashton)
         ho hum, those that want to kill us are almost as bad as - (boxley) - (6)
             Not to worry, Box. Israel is in no danger. - (a6l6e6x) - (4)
                 question - (boxley) - (3)
                     Re: question - (a6l6e6x) - (2)
                         So the Brit Occupation of Northern Ireland is illegal? - (boxley) - (1)
                             Sorry, I am not authorized to solve all of worlds problems. - (a6l6e6x)
             Re: ...the last plane in - (a6l6e6x)

That's the kind of brilliant thinking that propelled you onto public access.
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