It's all a matter of interpretation

Post #196,528 by bionerd 2/27/05 11:53:48 AM Reply	It's all a matter of interpretation IMO, the leaders of the church find homosexuality more offensive than eating pork so they adhere to this one. They pick and choose what to condemn and what to condone. So they take the bible, which they say is a divine document, and adhere to the parts they find tolerable and revile things they find untolerable. In other words, they are overiding the divine word. Seems hypocritcal to me. I happen to find eating pork more offensive than homosexuality, but that's just me. "I think animal testing is a terrible idea; they get all nervous and give the wrong answers."
Post #196,530 by pwhysall 2/27/05 12:10:21 PM Reply	That's a very simplistic analysis. It'd be true for Islam; the Qu'ran is the literal word of God; no interpretation is allowed. Hadith are The Prophet's explanations of various parts of the Qu'ran, often cast in terms of his own life, and again, no interpretation is allowed. [0] The Bible makes no claim to divine origin; its authors are sometimes known, sometimes not. Leviticus is widely considered to be a conglomerate of earlier sources, all of them very human. Of course, this makes Bible literalists look really rather foolish. Bonkers, say I. [0] A distinction is made between Sunnah (the Prophet's life) and Hadith (stories of the Prophet's life and what he approved). Peter [link\|http://www.ubuntulinux.org\|Ubuntu Linux] [link\|http://www.kuro5hin.org\|There is no K5 Cabal] [link\|http://guildenstern.dyndns.org\|Home] Use P2P for legitimate purposes!
Post #196,534 by Andrew Grygus 2/27/05 12:48:44 PM 2/27/05 12:50:03 PM Reply	Well, personally . . . . . I am presuming pig tastes a lot better than homosexuals, though I have experience only on the pig side. I really don't give a hoot about the "homosexual lifestile" as long as they don't mess with mine. Actually, they have messed with my lifestyle a bit by spreading Aids all over the place and I'm a bit resentful of that, but the impact hasn't been that great and they're already being punished for it. Ooooops, attached to wrong spot - oh well. [link\|http://www.aaxnet.com\|AAx] Edited by Andrew Grygus Feb. 27, 2005, 12:50:03 PM EST Expand All History
Post #196,536 by pwhysall 2/27/05 12:49:43 PM Reply	Isn't it a pity that www.manbeef.com is no more? Peter [link\|http://www.ubuntulinux.org\|Ubuntu Linux] [link\|http://www.kuro5hin.org\|There is no K5 Cabal] [link\|http://guildenstern.dyndns.org\|Home] Use P2P for legitimate purposes!
Post #196,537 by pwhysall 2/27/05 12:51:54 PM Reply	Also... ...it's straight people who are spreading AIDS hither and yon faster than anyone else. Peter [link\|http://www.ubuntulinux.org\|Ubuntu Linux] [link\|http://www.kuro5hin.org\|There is no K5 Cabal] [link\|http://guildenstern.dyndns.org\|Home] Use P2P for legitimate purposes!
Post #196,541 by Andrew Grygus 2/27/05 1:35:29 PM Reply	In Africa, yes . . . . which is where Aids is really ripping things up these days. It spreads easily through heterosexual contact when other diseases have already weakened the system. In the U.S. there's still typically a male homosexual or bisexual vector nearby, though hetrosexual transmission is certainly significant, again particularly in the "less advantaged" communities where other diseases assist. The original fast spread of Aids in the U.S. was by the male homosexual community who's practices make them particularly vulnerable, and particularly by a certain Canadian airline host who did it deliberately and gloated "By the way, I have 'the disease', so you probably have it now too". He should have been strangled right off. [link\|http://www.aaxnet.com\|AAx]
Post #196,767 by bionerd 3/1/05 10:14:43 AM Reply	Maybe But I dont have much use for organized religion so I dont waste time pondering over it. If you ask me, organized religion exists for only a few reasons: 1. To provide a social outlet 2. To prevent the moral demise of society 3. To offer an explanation for things that science hasnt yet explained "I think animal testing is a terrible idea; they get all nervous and give the wrong answers."
Post #196,768 by ChrisR 3/1/05 10:17:52 AM Reply	Unorganized religions not any better What with all the Elvis and UFO sightings.
Post #196,796 by tuberculosis 3/1/05 2:05:44 PM 8/21/07 5:42:50 AM Reply	4. To elect their own trained idiots to power "Whenever you find you are on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect" --Mark Twain "The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them." --Albert Einstein "This is still a dangerous world. It's a world of madmen and uncertainty and potential mental losses." --George W. Bush Edited by tuberculosis Aug. 21, 2007, 05:42:50 AM EDT Expand All History
Post #196,816 by Ashton 3/1/05 4:14:20 PM Reply	Re: Maybe A nit with 3). These matters have been pretty well dissected (even) here, across the eons. The 'scientific method' obv cannot apply to metaphysical ponderings, you might concede (?) Nope, no testing, experiment by peers, Michelson-Morley speed-of-Dark to 6 significant figures, etc. And nobody will get anywhere.. attempting to find language to 'prove' that the idea even, of meta?physics is either necessary or, ahem realizable -- given the sordid state of most frantic Jelloware in the Age of transistorized speeding-up and time-filling to neural overload. Given all the grounds for cynicism re most homo-sap mutterings, ratified daily by capitalism / the actual extant US religion - I'd assert that one can simply elide the corporate theologies and 'religions', investigate for oneself; exactly as all the memorable ancient Honchos did their foraging. What's to lose? Then.. if you Find Something umm transcendental? Keep it to Yourself! or some idiot will start YAN New Religion and today, prolly with a \ufffd. (We never hear from/about the quiet ones, who just smile a lot. Love. It.) Carrion
Post #196,858 by boxley 3/1/05 9:34:19 PM Reply	to provide a place of safety for the spiritually troubled where you can go dump all your misgivings, anger, bad faith decisions and immoral acts, where you come out feeling spiritually refreshed. Kind of like a crapper for the soul. thanx, boxley Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free american and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 48 years. meep questions, help? [link\|mailto:pappas@catholic.org\|email pappas at catholic.org]
Post #196,899 by bionerd 3/2/05 9:39:14 AM Reply	You can do all that without belonging to a church "I think animal testing is a terrible idea; they get all nervous and give the wrong answers."

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