Post #194,340
2/12/05 10:08:37 AM
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"Jeff Gannon" deconstructs the press corps
Well, I was going to do a long series of posts on the implications of all this, but I had too many prior committments, and events are overtaking me. So, this instead.
[link|http://www.drudgereport.com/flash3jg.htm|WHITE HOUSE SPOKESMAN: WHAT IS A REPORTER?]
Excerpt:
White House spokesman Scott McClellan On Thursday challenged liberal media activists, who are currently feigning outrage over events surrounding "Jeff Gannon," to examine the definition of reporter in the new century.
"In this day and age, when you have a changing media, it's not an easy issue to decide or try to pick and choose who is a journalist. It gets into the issue of advocacy journalism," McClellan said.
"Where do you draw the line? There are a number of people who cross that line in the briefing room...
[link|http://fnmarlowe.blogspot.com/2005/02/jeff-gannon-deconstructs-press-corps.html|Here's what I have to say on that.] A little analysis, a little debunking. Plus a final comment on Eason Jordan.
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Post #194,350
2/12/05 11:11:30 AM
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Cheeky twat.
Post it here or you're just another spammer.
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Post #194,362
2/12/05 12:06:38 PM
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The problem isn't that Gannon (or whomever)
is particular partisan (hell, name a reporter who isn't.) The problem that I have with right-wing idiots defending Gannon is that they ignore that Gannon had access to documents that revealed the identity of Plame. Karl Frisch, a spokesman for Ms. Slaughter, said: "This is a guy who could not get credentialed by the House or the Senate press galleries, and yet managed to get into the White House and question the president" and have access to a top-secret document.
[link|http://www.nytimes.com/2005/02/11/politics/11gannon.html?| Source ] Makes you wonder what other top secret documents are floating about to whomever.
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Post #194,366
2/12/05 12:57:29 PM
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Potential problems here
I actually see several potential problems with Gannon.
1. Does Gannon actually qualify as a reporter? As far as I have seen, Gannon did not report on anything, even the questions he asked himself. Can you imagine a real reporter asking a question at a White House press conference and then not mentioning it? As far as I have seen every item on the Talon news site was nothing but a GOP press clip.
2. Did the White House know or have involvement in getting Gannon his pass? It would be very hard for a nobody like Gannon to consistantly get a press pass, yet Gannon got one day in and day out. There is also some question of the Gannon name here, Gannon had to use his real name to get the press pass. But the people calling on Gannon always used the 'Jeff Gannon' name.
And note that this doesn't require that the White House helped plant him. It would be enough that the Press Secretary had been told that Gannon was a sure thing friendly question.
3. Gannon seemed to have some interesting information and knew what questions to ask the White House. Somebody had to be feeding him this stuff, who was it?
4. Who ever actually paid Gannon had to have an idea what was going on. And it seems he was paid by a GOP lobbying group. Even if the White House was not involved, just how far up the GOP was the known?
Jay
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Post #194,382
2/12/05 6:11:24 PM
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well I left a comment for you there,
Now back to the subject at hand. When Clinton needing a softball he gave the nod to his buds. The fact that someone was using a fake name doesnt mean he must be a plant but why does it matter? The president refuses to answer straight forward questions a trait you share with him. So he spots this partisan guy and basks in his queries. Not a bad thing.
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Post #194,388
2/12/05 7:08:27 PM
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marlowe and events
philbot says: events are overtaking me. Little guy, events have been overtaking you for years. Die Welt ist alles, was der Fall ist.
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Post #195,459
2/18/05 10:14:40 PM
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update on the Gannon piece
Well auld son, here is some interesting schtuff from our old friend Justin
quote**** The answer: a man called "Jeff Gannon."
Amid the media frenzy over Gannon's journalistic bona fides, or lack of them \ufffd and the lurid speculation going on in the left lane of the blogosphere about how a purported male hooker got admitted to White House press briefings before his "Talon News Agency" (a front group created by "GOPUSA") was even created \ufffd one has to ask: who cares?
Answer: Patrick J. Fitzgerald, for one, the chief prosecutor in an investigation that could rope in several high-ranking administration officials and even lead to the White House itself. And those of us who have been awaiting the come-uppance of this White House, for two, and are ready to get out the popcorn and the chips-and-dip and settle down for a nice long juicy scandal.***end quote
source [link|http://antiwar.com/justin/|http://antiwar.com/justin/]
well he got cred before he had an org, hmm not even the Clinton's would stand for that unless he was a paid flack
thanx,
boxley
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Post #195,487
2/19/05 2:00:44 AM
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And Mo Dowd checks in
[link|http://www.nytimes.com/2005/02/17/opinion/17dowd.html?pagewanted=print&position=|http://www.nytimes.c...d=print&position=]
I'm still mystified by this story. I was rejected for a White House press pass at the start of the Bush administration, but someone with an alias, a tax evasion problem and Internet pictures where he posed like the "Barberini Faun" is credentialed to cover a White House that won a second term by mining homophobia and preaching family values?
At first when I tried to complain about not getting my pass renewed, even though I'd been covering presidents and first ladies since 1986, no one called me back. Finally, when Mr. McClellan replaced Ari Fleischer, he said he'd renew the pass - after a new Secret Service background check that would last several months.
In an era when security concerns are paramount, what kind of Secret Service background check did James Guckert get so he could saunter into the West Wing every day under an assumed name while he was doing full-frontal advertising for stud services for $1,200 a weekend? He used a driver's license that said James Guckert to get into the White House, then, once inside, switched to his alter ego, asking questions as Jeff Gannon.
Mr. McClellan shrugged this off to Editor & Publisher magazine, oddly noting, "People use aliases all the time in life, from journalists to actors."
I know the F.B.I. computers don't work, but this is ridiculous.
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Even the Nixon White House didn't do anything this creepy.
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Very fishy.
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Post #195,488
2/19/05 2:12:10 AM
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Along with Frank Rich of NYT
[link|http://www.nytimes.com/2005/02/20/arts/20rich.html?8hpib=&pagewanted=print&position=|http://www.nytimes.c...d=print&position=]
"Jeff" has now quit Talon News not because he and it have been exposed as fakes but because of other embarrassing blogosphere revelations linking him to sites like hotmilitarystud.com and to an apparently promising career as an X-rated $200-per-hour "escort." If Mr. Guckert, the author of Talon News exclusives like "Kerry Could Become First Gay President," is yet another link in the boundless network of homophobic Republican closet cases, that's not without interest. But it shouldn't distract from the real question - that is, the real news - of how this fake newsman might be connected to a White House propaganda machine that grows curiouser by the day. Though Mr. McClellan told Editor & Publisher magazine that he didn't know until recently that Mr. Guckert was using an alias, Bruce Bartlett, a White House veteran of the Reagan-Bush I era, wrote on the nonpartisan journalism Web site Romenesko, that "if Gannon was using an alias, the White House staff had to be involved in maintaining his cover." (Otherwise, it would be a rather amazing post-9/11 security breach.)
By my count, "Jeff Gannon" is now at least the sixth "journalist" (four of whom have been unmasked so far this year) to have been a propagandist on the payroll of either the Bush administration or a barely arms-length ally like Talon News while simultaneously appearing in print or broadcast forums that purport to be real news. Of these six, two have been syndicated newspaper columnists paid by the Department of Health and Human Services to promote the administration's "marriage" initiatives. The other four have played real newsmen on TV. Before Mr. Guckert and Armstrong Williams, the talking head paid $240,000 by the Department of Education, there were Karen Ryan and Alberto Garcia. Let us not forget these pioneers - the Woodward and Bernstein of fake news. They starred in bogus reports ("In Washington, I'm Karen Ryan reporting," went the script) pretending to "sort through the details" of the administration's Medicare prescription-drug plan in 2004. Such "reports," some of which found their way into news packages distributed to local stations by CNN, appeared in more than 50 news broadcasts around the country and have now been deemed illegal "covert propaganda" by the Government Accountability Office.
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This is way beyond spin. Virtual Reality sans machines.
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