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New VPC and Macs
Actually, VPC is a good way to run Windows, since it emulates "ideal" Wintel hardware which you rarely find the real world. Thus Windows is noticeably more stable under VPC than in real life. (In my experience, anyway.)
Expand Edited by tjsinclair July 16, 2001, 10:06:04 AM EDT
New Most interesting comment!
If that is somewhat 'demonstrably true' - I mean ~ that someone has taken the time to say, try to crash BOTH native base-98-load on Intel + identical nastiness to an Apple running VPC (??)

WHY - surely that information could.. be a final nail in coffin - for the very many who have had it with Windoze, especially their licensing - and quite irrationally but Most-sanely: with Billy n'Bally!

No?

ie IF.. you have this One or maybe Three Windoze aps which simply - you must use AND you despise having-to: how much of a hardware-cost premium (+ VPC and other Apple-only additional s/ware) might you be willing to pay, to become Free At Last from the entire Evil Empire?

Linux is of course the direction many believe, hope might accomplish the same end via creeping gradualism, refinement of StarOffice et al - constant fixing of the intentionally sabotaged file formats and other lock-ins..

But Linux scares the folks who most need surcease from the "up"grades and don't know shit about ANY of the platforms - and haven't much understanding of such issues as, "ownership of your own data VS M$ ownership of it all" and related conundra.

Apple should also appeal to those thoroughly steeped in the religious dogma of Capitalism: a place to 'own' the logo AND a place to BLAME - if/when it goes wrong. (Even - a left-handed way to dis them long-haired Commyunist Linux Loosers AND STILL: diss the Evil Empire!)

So IF.. there are such data (re stability, compatibility = demonstrable overall performance of VPC on Apple) - should this not be [ugh] fucking marketed to a fare-thee well ???

(I can already think of two local businesses who might want to run with this.. after a little investigation)

I mean: THIS is NEWS! Ain't it ??



Ashton
who still remembers the resentment generated by the insufferable young-twit Jobs -- now merely an insufferable older-twit and.. heavier. And especially: the arrogant pricing and *service when they thought They had a 'monopoly' in GUIs (all stolen from Xerox-Parc as all know).

(And Andy et al will describe how it was all along - to BE an Apple Dealer. I'll bet that THIS feeling has hardly disappeared, out there?)




Always - it's a trade-off when dealing with the mercantile mind, the greedy entrepreneur: ALL of them. {sigh}
New Ideal Wintel hardware
What exactly is "Ideal Wintel Hardware" anyway?

None of the Packard Bell or Compaq or Dell or Gateway boxes, I take it?

Just name brand hardware with brand names on it, not generic cheap knock-off cheapie PC Clones that nobody knows where to get support from as the OEM didn't put their name on the hardware or address or phone number in the manual (which is written in broken-English anyway)?

If you mean that VPC emulates ABit Motherboards (Award BIOS), with TNT2 AGP display adapters, 3Com network cards, Creative Labs Sound Blaster 128 cards, etc instead of the Niehan-Deska Generic PC crap that nobody can ID to find new drivers for, or the proprietary Name Brand systems that are Packard Bell Reborn? Is that what you mean?

The good "Ideal Wintel Hardware" should run fine with any Windows version, and not suffer from hardware bugs or problems with the drivers.

Even if you have "Ideal Wintel Hardware" or an emulator that emulates "Ideal Wintel Hardware" you still have to put up with DLL-Hell, and other stuff that the software suffers from. Hardware is only like half of the issues.
"I can see if I want anything done right around here, I'll have to do it myself!"Moe Howard
New Agreed
HW is only part of the story. DLL Hell is still a real possibility. (But remember people are using VPC for only a few apps part of the time. Otherwise why not just buy a PC?)

As for what 'ideal' means, I have no clue. I only know that I ran Win95 for about three years without a single blue screen and discussions with other VPC owners showed they had similar experiences.

New I have an idea what Ideal might be.
The most stable Windows 95 installation I ever had was a 486 Vesa Local Bus PC. I had such a beast at work for several years, initially with DOS and Windows 3.1, but I got to upgrade it to Windows 95 during our first forays into supporting Win95 on the LAN, at the time, Banyan VINES.

I never had to re-install it. Ever. And it had numerous beta-issue Windows VINES drivers installed and de-installed. I suspect Microsoft had just such a platform in abundance for developing and testing on. Hence the stability.

Wade.

"All around me are nothing but fakes
Come with me on the biggest fake of all!"

     Well thats it - time for some big changes !!!!! - (dmarker2) - (17)
         Yay from a fellow iBook owner who hasnt PC'd in 5 weeks :) -NT - (Meerkat)
         Ah, the Apple mouse... (a bit OT) - (tjsinclair) - (7)
             Re: Ah, the etc: - Installed Win98 under VPC - (dmarker2) - (6)
                 VPC and Macs - (tjsinclair) - (4)
                     Most interesting comment! - (Ashton)
                     Ideal Wintel hardware - (orion) - (2)
                         Agreed - (tjsinclair)
                         I have an idea what Ideal might be. - (static)
                 VPC - (tjsinclair)
         Re: OPERA - on verge of dumping it - need advice - (dmarker2) - (4)
             Some suggestions. - (static) - (3)
                 Eudora for MacOS - (tjsinclair)
                 Agent string setting - (mhuber) - (1)
                     Yes, it enables more objects. - (static)
         Look at what can be in your future. - (a6l6e6x) - (2)
             That's for Windows - (SpiceWare) - (1)
                 You're absolutely right! - (a6l6e6x)

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