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New Color me surprised
This eliminates the standard "macs are expensive" complaint.

This device is clearly the beginning of the home media center convergence. It replaces a lot of crap like your dvd/cd player, radio tuner (most radio is net streamed now too - along with a lot of great stuff not on the "air"), that kokopelli cd rack, the wireless access point (add airport extreme card), home file server, host your website/blog, and brings the web to your sofa (get a bluetooth keyboard).

Amazing level of value.

And yet - the posters at CNET are panning it on the basis that Dell sells a lame celeron with fewer interfaces and a really crappy glass screen for $399. Or that there is no software (mini comes with more software than most people use). Or that you *have* to have a KVM switch to use it alongside your PC (where did that come from?).

There is a tremendous lack of *vision* as to what this little gem can be made to do and a lot of carping about what has been left out. The processor is described as "underpowered" (1.25 GHz!).

I don't get the lack of enthusiasm and tremendous negativity shown. Its a great product. Plus the PC crowd always neglects to add in the recurring cost of virus control.

Maybe its Billy and Bally doing the shill dance.




"The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them."     --Albert Einstein

"This is still a dangerous world. It's a world of madmen and uncertainty and potential mental losses."     --George W. Bush
New A lot of the press doesn't understand it.
It could be a very important product for Apple, but they need to connect the dots.

If someone jumps out and shows the average Joe how to make a decent TiVo box out of this thing quickly and easily, I think it'll really take off.

"It'll let you record TV shows! It'll let you send e-mail to your grandkids! It'll save your digital pictures! It'll save all of your music! You can surf the web and not worry about viruses and spyware! ..." A TiVo won't do all that, a regular PC won't do all that.

I haven't seen this much "excitement" about an Apple computer in a long time. But it needs to find its niche in the home quickly before the MS/Dell duopoloy brings out a lame pseudo-clone and steals Apple's thunder.

Cheers,
Scott.
New That new USB tuner includes what's needed.
[link|http://www.macworld.com/news/2005/01/11/eyetvwonder/index.php|MWSF: Elgato, ATI bring EyeTV Wonder to Mac]
EyeTV Wonder features a 125-channel analog TV tuner and an S-Video and composite video input that can connect to cable television, VCRs and gaming consoles. It also sports stereo analog inputs. You can schedule and record programs using TitanTV, an online programming guide that also supports remote programming over the Internet.
ElGato's web site isn't responding at the moment, wonder if they're being bombarded by people interesting in doing this.
Darrell Spice, Jr.                      [link|http://spiceware.org/gallery/ArtisticOverpass|Artistic Overpass]\n[link|http://www.spiceware.org/|SpiceWare] - We don't do Windows, it's too much of a chore
New Could be! Thanks.
New I can't the find the article I saw about that...
There was someone I read semi-regularly who pointed out that Apple could lose money on the MacMini and still stay out in front. Why? Apparantly, Apple has a large cash surplus. If they're willing to lose $1billion subsidising the MacMini, they'll find out if such a relatively cheap device will sell in quantity. If it does, they've made a considerable dent in the Wintel market. If not, well, it was an experiment anyway.

Wade.

Is it enough to love
Is it enough to breathe
Somebody rip my heart out
And leave me here to bleed
 
Is it enough to die
Somebody save my life
I'd rather be Anything but Ordinary
Please

-- "Anything but Ordinary" by Avril Lavigne.

New Cringely?
[link|http://www.pbs.org/cringely/pulpit/pulpit20050107.html|Here] - see #3.

Cheers,
Scott.
New Yes! I thought it was Dave Winer... )

Is it enough to love
Is it enough to breathe
Somebody rip my heart out
And leave me here to bleed
 
Is it enough to die
Somebody save my life
I'd rather be Anything but Ordinary
Please

-- "Anything but Ordinary" by Avril Lavigne.

     Mac mini and iPod shuffle - (SpiceWare) - (67)
         There you go... - (folkert) - (3)
             I think I've found my next computer - (bepatient) - (2)
                 I just *TRIED* to pre-order one - (folkert) - (1)
                     /.ed - (Steve Lowe)
         Hey, that'll fit on top of my PC tower! - (altmann) - (4)
             One sour note - (altmann) - (3)
                 They always say that. - (bepatient) - (1)
                     The trick is in one of the photos. - (folkert)
                 Not too bad for 512 MB - (SpiceWare)
         Apple has an easy way to migrate from PC to Mac - (SpiceWare) - (2)
             Just buy a $400+ machine to make it easy -NT - (andread) - (1)
                 Halo effect - (SpiceWare)
         There goes the "macs are expensive" argument - (tuberculosis) - (21)
             Tell me how one records TV shows with it. I'm all ears. :-) -NT - (Another Scott) - (20)
                 Via USB or FireWire tuner - (SpiceWare) - (3)
                     Very interesting.I'll check into this more carefully.Thanks! -NT - (Another Scott) - (2)
                         Look into 5.1 USB audio adapters too. -NT - (altmann)
                         newly announced $149 USB 2.0 Tuner - (SpiceWare)
                 I have no idea - (tuberculosis)
                 Slashdot on Linux PVRs. How to make a PVR for $200. - (Another Scott) - (14)
                     If you ever want to do HDTV under Linux... - (inthane-chan) - (5)
                         Thanks for the heads-up. - (Another Scott)
                         My order from today... - (folkert) - (2)
                             Let us know how you like it. - (Another Scott) - (1)
                                 Nope... that would be the only because they... - (folkert)
                         Ed Felten on the Broadcast Flag. - (Another Scott)
                     Re: Slashdot on Linux PVRs. How to make a PVR for $200. - (admin) - (7)
                         Thanks. I will have to check it out carefully. - (Another Scott) - (6)
                             Depends. - (admin) - (5)
                                 Seems stupid - (drewk) - (2)
                                     Sure. - (Another Scott) - (1)
                                         Re: Sure. - (admin)
                                 At least around here, digital and analog are the same wire. - (Another Scott) - (1)
                                     I have a 350 - (admin)
         Only fly in the Mini ointment - RAM - (pwhysall)
         up to 2GB in mini - (SpiceWare)
         interesting ad idea - (SpiceWare)
         Very interesting. - (static) - (5)
             I'd rethink the engagement - (tuberculosis) - (4)
                 Especially as it's to his fiance... - (pwhysall) - (3)
                     You mean, of course ... - (Another Scott) - (1)
                         Well pardon me for remaining within 7-bit ASCII :-) -NT - (pwhysall)
                     I wanted to make the distinction. - (static)
         Manjoo / Salon's take - (Ashton) - (23)
             When... - (pwhysall)
             Color me surprised - (tuberculosis) - (6)
                 A lot of the press doesn't understand it. - (Another Scott) - (2)
                     That new USB tuner includes what's needed. - (SpiceWare) - (1)
                         Could be! Thanks. -NT - (Another Scott)
                 I can't the find the article I saw about that... - (static) - (2)
                     Cringely? - (Another Scott) - (1)
                         Yes! I thought it was Dave Winer... ) -NT - (static)
             Boggle... - (admin) - (12)
                 Really... - (folkert) - (11)
                     Really. - (Steve Lowe)
                     Can I have your job? -NT - (inthane-chan) - (1)
                         I only work part-time. - (folkert)
                     You (and we) are hardly the typical PC-buying public. - (admin) - (3)
                         Yeah... I know. - (folkert) - (2)
                             You are DEFINITELY not the average PC-buying public. - (admin) - (1)
                                 I'm now on a 3-year cycle - (pwhysall)
                     Looking for a missionary to support? <:) -NT - (FuManChu) - (3)
                         That is after giving my 10% and... - (folkert) - (2)
                             Wow. -NT - (FuManChu) - (1)
                                 But a good thing came of it... - (folkert)
             Ill-informed. - (bepatient)
             And now: the Bestials reply to Manjoo - (Ashton)

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