Post #18,845
11/19/01 4:33:12 PM
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Election spin
How does he do it? Concise and accurate, 4 panels of barbed wit puncturing the posturing posers.
[link|http://www.salon.com/comics/tomo/2001/11/19/tomo/index.html|Tom Tommorrow!] (with fanfare) nails another one!
How to mangle the truth;
Have it reported by any major U.S. media outlet.
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Post #18,881
11/19/01 8:46:49 PM
11/19/01 8:47:19 PM
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Re: Election spin
and spin and spin.
I'd view Tom Tomorrow better if he did not have a consistant one-sided driving spin. It's left to the reader to decipher the spin. (It isn't hard.)
No, I don't ask for "balance". But someone unable to see the flaws in one party while constantly going after the other like a rottweiler after meat ... naw.
Even Doonesbury needles the Democrats every so often.
"Beware of bugs in the above code; I have only proved it correct, not tried it."
-- Donald Knuth
Edited by wharris2
Nov. 19, 2001, 08:47:19 PM EST
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Post #18,910
11/20/01 1:46:21 AM
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Please describe the factual error in this comic presentation
Calling it Left- Right- or Orthogonal- 'spin' does not eradicate a 'fact' - for those who are fond of factoids generally, if not even obsessively.
Now does it?
(I guess you've conveniently missed his Clinton deflowering panels through the years. Too.)
Tom Rocks. And so does his Penguin - a pre-Linux one, I might add.. speaking of plagiarism.
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Post #18,999
11/20/01 3:09:38 PM
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Re: Please describe the factual error in this comic presenta
The fact that Gore got more votes in the national popular election is totally irrelevant. The US Constitution defines how a president is elected. Ah, but yes - "Ignorance is Strength".
The fact that that troublesome West Palm Beech butterfly ballot was the creation of a Democrat was not mentioned.
The fact that more of the pinko-commie voters, a disproportion percentage of whom vote, voted for Gore than for Bush was not mentioned. :) Yeh, Nader got some of them too.
The fact that no general election, anywhere, is perfectly accurate was not mentioned. It just happened that Florida had a wider margin of error this time.
The fact that Gore was Our Boy[tm] and he lost and we still can't get over it wasn't mentioned. Deal with it and move on already!
Omission of facts speaks volumes too.
In this case, I laugh more at than with the cartoonist.
But, I still cringe when I see Dubya open his mouth.
Alex
Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from religious conviction. -- Blaise Pascal (1623-1662)
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Post #19,041
11/20/01 9:32:50 PM
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Nope: his take was re FL only. Reread.
Have to recall the huge number of votes never er 'recounted' even once: never mind that Both of the (One-Party with Two Right Wings\ufffd) made errors of NOT insisting upon options - they could have insisted on.
This is called 'strategy', even when later it looks like 'bad-strategy'. I ain't a goin to go through the numbers no more times, though.
A.
Revealed Truth via Dream:
GushBore - two a-holes as could only have ended up as the Best (!) 2:280,000,000 IF the Fix Was In and It Was. Pure Corporate Selection. The rest: mockery. EOF
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Post #19,044
11/20/01 9:40:07 PM
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Yer not gonna convince the true believers
"Beware of bugs in the above code; I have only proved it correct, not tried it."
-- Donald Knuth
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Post #19,119
11/21/01 11:39:52 AM
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Ya know, there's this thing called a symptom...
...and that's what I'm more concerned about.
Yeah, I think that Shrub himself is a bad choice for president, moderated by the fact that he's propped up by so many of Daddy's Boys that they can keep him in line, somewhat. If he had won outright, I wouldn't argue that he wasn't the President.
Quite frankly, both Shrub's and Bore's tactics during the Fla recount mess disgusted me and pointed to a deeper problem - the purposeful manipulation of voting to favor one party or the other. Oldest game in the book? Sure. Does this mean that we, the people should tolerate it? Only if we enjoy getting reamed every time some power wants a favor from their bought 'n paid for legislator.
You Bush supporters should be on my side on this one - not because I want Shrub kicked out of the office (I do) - that isn't the issue. Whether or not the person who is currently serving as our President isn't the REAL issue, as much as those in positions of power are trying to make it out to be - the real issue is how our voting system still has miles to go before we even meet the goal of being a Republic, let alone a Democracy.
"He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you." - Friedrich Nietzsche
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Post #19,129
11/21/01 12:19:40 PM
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And I am in full agreement....
...that the current process by which we elect our federal representatives is FUBAR and needs to be completely overhauled.
You were born...and so you're free...so Happy Birthday! Laurie Anderson
[link|mailto:bepatient@aol.com|BePatient]
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Post #18,939
11/20/01 10:27:24 AM
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Is it just because he punctures your flavor of hypocrites
that you ignore the fact that he also punctures any flavor of hypocrite?
I have always found him to be an equal opportunity parodist. Even if he was, as you inaccuratly describe, "someone unable to see the flaws in one party while constantly going after the other", does that make his barbs any less telling? I suspect the reason you see so many jabs at the right, is that the right is now in power. When Clinton was in, he was just as vigorous in his deflating of the left.
I find it especially ironic by the way that you, of all people, would state the line I've quoted above.
How to mangle the truth;
Have it reported by any major U.S. media outlet.
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Post #18,990
11/20/01 2:33:31 PM
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Penguin Soup for the Soul
Get it.
Read it.
He tears Clinton apart.
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Post #18,943
11/20/01 10:47:50 AM
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sharp stick, poke! right on!
Sitting in SoFla during said election at 3 in the afternoon of election day hearing the screaming on all the local shows about senate candidates missing from ballot in her home precinct, butterflies, a candidate driving around with a punch machine and ballot blanks, that cartoon was accurate.
thanx,
bill
tshirt front "born to die before I get old"
thshirt back "fscked another one didnja?"
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Post #19,075
11/20/01 11:20:49 PM
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6 panels.
"All around me are nothing but fakes
Come with me on the biggest fake of all!"
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Post #19,188
11/21/01 8:34:37 PM
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Pecksniff!
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