Post #175,444
9/21/04 2:52:48 PM
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It's not the "hip hop culture"
it's just basic stupidly and a lack of caring for life from some scum who have no future. This shit has been happening for 40 years now; change the music for the past, but gang life hasn't changed one bit.
lincoln
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Post #175,445
9/21/04 2:59:15 PM
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Re: It's not the "hip hop culture"
I disagree. It's a stupid, violent, insane culture that crosses racial barriers and sees imaginary slights as cause for murder. It's the ultimate expression of the unrestricted feminine. (See references to b's and h's etc. etc. and the excess of "male" fashion behavior.)
-drl
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Post #175,450
9/21/04 3:12:02 PM
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its the machismo esse, not the hip hop
These miserable swine, having nothing but illusions to live on, marshmallows for the soul in place of good meat, will now stoop to any disgusting level to prevent even those miserable morsels from vanishing into thin air. The country is being destroyed by these stupid, vicious right-wing fanatics, the spiritual brothers of the brownshirts and redstars, collectivists and authoritarians all, who would not know freedom if it bit them on the ass, who spend all their time trying to stamp, bludgeon, and eviscerate the very idea of the individual's right to his own private world. DRL
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Post #175,451
9/21/04 3:12:21 PM
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On this we agree
It's poverty that breeds these murderers, the ghettos that train these murderers, and society that doesn't care until it's too late.
lincoln
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Post #175,456
9/21/04 3:39:37 PM
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s/feminine/masculine/
If these people got in touch with their inner women instead of being terrified of them, it might be different.
Misogyny is misogyny, whether it's breakbeat or swing.
Peter
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Post #175,460
9/21/04 3:44:31 PM
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Re: s/feminine/masculine/
The inner woman is what is destroying. What these people do has nothing to do with the masculine spirit (the one that makes things, not destroys them).
-drl
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Post #175,463
9/21/04 3:52:23 PM
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How sad
If that's how you feel about your inner feminine side, no wonder you're scared to get in touch with it!
Of course every major internal drive can come out in positive and negative ways. If you repress it, then you've just made the negative expressions far more likely, reinforcing the impressions upon which your fear is based. Which, of course, leads to a vicious cycle.
Ben
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Post #175,465
9/21/04 4:00:13 PM
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Re: How sad
Some things need destroying. Creativity is essentially masculine, regardless of who's doing the creating. It's not sex, as I've said again and again and again. This is a matter of ONE aspect of the psyche - the anima - dominating all aspects of culture from school buses to executions. The animus is disinherited and projected in its negative form - e.g. bravado, narcissistic preening, territoriality - onto the external world - so ridiculous things like bumping into a car are interpreted as threats to the self.
Mars is Pluto in its chthonic form - the frustrated Ego forced to do the will of the Destroyer.
-drl
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Post #175,468
9/21/04 4:03:57 PM
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Translation:
Garble blabble babble rhubarb rhubarb gabble fabble ook ook ook eebee ba deebee doo.
Regards,
-scott anderson
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Post #175,470
9/21/04 4:08:12 PM
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ICLRPD (new thread)
Created as new thread #175469 titled [link|/forums/render/content/show?contentid=175469|ICLRPD]
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Steve
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Post #175,478
9/21/04 4:26:54 PM
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Gee, thanks.
I now have whole wheat bread, lettuce, and deli meat all over my laptop. :P
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Post #175,485
9/21/04 4:46:11 PM
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We Aim To Pleez.
Regards,
-scott anderson
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Post #175,484
9/21/04 4:45:26 PM
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Prior art:
blah blah blah I hate women blah blah and rap music blah blah blah I'm so macho blah blah blah can't find my medallion blah blah blah jesus fuck am I over 40 already? blah blah blah kids these days blah blah.
Peter
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Post #175,486
9/21/04 4:46:56 PM
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Not really.
That's halfway intelligible.
Regards,
-scott anderson
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Post #175,495
9/21/04 5:12:47 PM
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You sure you didn't miss a syllable there, Butch?
ROFL big time!
jb4
shrub\ufffdbish (Am., from shrub + rubbish, after the derisive name for America's 43 president; 2003) n. 1. a form of nonsensical political doubletalk wherein the speaker attempts to defend the indefensible by lying, obfuscation, or otherwise misstating the facts; GIBBERISH. 2. any of a collection of utterances from America's putative 43rd president. cf. BULLSHIT
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Post #175,854
9/23/04 12:51:32 AM
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hmm___Isn't that what code sounds like to your normal human?
After all, there is a Code Complete manual re Ross's assertions (which may or may not be Right On -?- in his phrasing) as regards the most popular forms of social diseases now a festerin and a rottin at the Village bizarre. We could always parse some of the gender stuff, of course - it's easy to get wrong in the modern n+1 variants all mixed together in any Disco.
Jung - don't leave Soc. "Sci" without him; he ain't perfectly prescient either.. but he sure beats the Hell outta those mental quirks which make certain jelloware susceptible to such bafflegab as Revelations and Leviticus .. (while we're examining weird mouth sounds).
..now as for C# n'PDP-8 assembler.. well, at least ya could get paid for that sorta stuff. Not as well as a shrink, of course.. Not nearly as well as a Pope!
moi
j-;
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Post #175,874
9/23/04 8:35:36 AM
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rofl good show
-drl
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Post #175,804
9/22/04 5:38:14 PM
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After doing some research...
I don't give Jung's theories a lot of weight as a whole, though some points coincide with my own observances.
But your evaluation of the material seems to be off. What I get from my research is that a man that overly identifies with the anima tends towards effeminaty or homosexuality, not brutality. A man who identifies with his masculine persona will repress his anima in himself, and project the image of his anima on the women in his life; these men tend to become disappointed when the women don't match their anima. I see nothing in his discription of the anima of it being destructive, only emotional. In fact he states that the anima is essential in mid life for vitality, flexibility and human kindness.
In general though, what I've read leads me to believe that it is the repression of his anima that would make a man destructive.
~~~)-Steven----
"I want you to remember that no bastard ever won a war by dying for his country.
He won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his country..."
General George S. Patton
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Post #175,811
9/22/04 5:51:06 PM
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Or, as we like to say around here...
...arfle barfle rhubarb awooga hatstands carrots handbags cheese.
Peter
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Post #175,828
9/22/04 7:17:02 PM
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Hey! Ix-nay on the afflegab-bay
Let's not give the casual spammer who might happen by here any additional spam-filter countermeasures, OK?
(Besides, I like to drink coke when I read these fora, and a thru-the-nose-Coke-blow hurts! ;-) )
jb4
shrub\ufffdbish (Am., from shrub + rubbish, after the derisive name for America's 43 president; 2003) n. 1. a form of nonsensical political doubletalk wherein the speaker attempts to defend the indefensible by lying, obfuscation, or otherwise misstating the facts; GIBBERISH. 2. any of a collection of utterances from America's putative 43rd president. cf. BULLSHIT
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Post #175,836
9/22/04 8:54:49 PM
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Kuala Lumpur!
Regards,
-scott anderson
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Post #175,937
9/23/04 1:28:17 PM
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Somewhere in there...
...is the recipe for a decent salad....
jb4
shrub\ufffdbish (Am., from shrub + rubbish, after the derisive name for America's 43 president; 2003) n. 1. a form of nonsensical political doubletalk wherein the speaker attempts to defend the indefensible by lying, obfuscation, or otherwise misstating the facts; GIBBERISH. 2. any of a collection of utterances from America's putative 43rd president. cf. BULLSHIT
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Post #175,840
9/22/04 9:26:19 PM
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snort
-drl
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Post #175,466
9/21/04 4:00:26 PM
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Oh, you and your fear of women.
Boys are destructive by nature (I know, I was one at one time and knew plenty of others). Girls are not. Boys learn the value of things as they get older and create or pay for them themselves, and learn the value of life as they learn to understand their own mortality, and they get less destructive (at least as far as random destructiveness goes). Many never mature to that extent and never learn not to be destructive. This is not particularly a problem with women who very rarely kill people for bumping into their cars.
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Post #175,467
9/21/04 4:01:41 PM
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Re: Oh, you and your fear of women.
One has to interpret "destroy" in a somewhat broader context, G (sheesh).
-drl
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Post #175,472
9/21/04 4:16:10 PM
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In a broader context . .
. . women have not been notably active in creation or application of weapons of mass destruction (so yes, here men are more creative, but only to enable being more destructive).
Of course, if you mean by "broader context" that psychobable you spouted in the branch above, it was my impression all that had been totally discredited back in the last century.
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Post #175,474
9/21/04 4:20:02 PM
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Re: In a broader context . .
The destruction is not "physical" (of course, if the balance is ruined that is an inevitable outcome). This is a metaphorical description of a psychic attitude. The external form of destructiveness from the anima is, somewhat paradoxically, and obsession with safety (among other equally unhealthy things).
I can't believe all you geniuses are so thick. This is simple Jungian analysis.
-drl
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Post #175,475
9/21/04 4:22:41 PM
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So, if I understand you correctly...
The glabble farfle dingle plong rantastic gelatinous heebie leebie raffle de baffles think I like Ike, and rutabagas do too?
Got it. Thick... sheesh.
Regards,
-scott anderson
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Post #175,487
9/21/04 4:47:22 PM
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PLONG.
Thank you, and good night. I do believe that's the last LRPD we'll ever need.
Peter
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Post #175,498
9/21/04 5:18:14 PM
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How very 1996.
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Post #175,496
9/21/04 5:16:07 PM
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STOP!!! PLEEEZE STOP!! Yer KILLING me!!!
I'll never drink coke again!!!!!
jb4
shrub\ufffdbish (Am., from shrub + rubbish, after the derisive name for America's 43 president; 2003) n. 1. a form of nonsensical political doubletalk wherein the speaker attempts to defend the indefensible by lying, obfuscation, or otherwise misstating the facts; GIBBERISH. 2. any of a collection of utterances from America's putative 43rd president. cf. BULLSHIT
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Post #175,476
9/21/04 4:22:53 PM
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ObSentientLRPD
"Ignore the man talking to his hand."
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Post #175,477
9/21/04 4:24:03 PM
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Hmm... the one I got:
"$0.10 worth of rotted cabbage."
Regards,
-scott anderson
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Post #175,479
9/21/04 4:31:47 PM
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Mine:
I do believe that goes beyond just poor choice of words. It wanders into the out right stupid choice of words. ===
Implicitly condoning stupidity since 2001.
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Post #175,480
9/21/04 4:33:17 PM
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Thought for the day
just got in email:
THOUGHT FOR THE DAY
Never hold your farts in.
They travel up your spine, into your brain, and that
is where shitty ideas come from.
Thought it apropos.
--
Steve
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Post #175,481
9/21/04 4:39:29 PM
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The actual thought for the day
..from someone who actually thinks:
The entire Western world is caught in a gigantic projection of a negative anima image. Since it is a projection, by definition it is unconscious (thus all the stupid responses here in the face of clear evidence). Since it is unconscious, it is guaranteed to get ever more out of hand until a cataclysm (nuclear will be enough, or global warming) erases the board and we can start over from square 1. You asked for it, you got it. Have fun with your stupid, shallow equalism while waiting.
-me
-drl
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Post #175,483
9/21/04 4:45:04 PM
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And now we know...
... what one hears when one answers the banana phone...
Sorry, Ross... but I really can't take your Young Negatory Animaniacs bafflegabble seriously.
Regards,
-scott anderson
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Post #175,488
9/21/04 4:48:26 PM
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Explains that cartoon on Newgrounds, at any rate.
Peter
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Post #175,489
9/21/04 4:50:16 PM
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"Look, he's stopped twitching..."
Regards,
-scott anderson
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Post #175,516
9/21/04 6:36:43 PM
9/21/04 6:37:11 PM
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ROFL!!!!
You all are cracking me up! Hehehe!
Good thing I don't drink or eat ANYTHING while actually reading a post. ;)
Nightowl >8#
Edit: I'm so tempted to scan my Banana Phone in to the computer! ;)
"It's not where a person stands in time of comfort and security, but rather where they stand in times of strife and controversy that determine true friends."
(Quote sent to me by a true friend, author unknown).
Edited by Nightowl
Sept. 21, 2004, 06:37:11 PM EDT
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Post #175,555
9/21/04 10:09:25 PM
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Fuck you you ignorant pig
-drl
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Post #175,578
9/21/04 11:45:50 PM
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Sorry, not interested
Besides, you're the wrong species, no feathers. ;)
Nightowl >8#
"It's not where a person stands in time of comfort and security, but rather where they stand in times of strife and controversy that determine true friends."
(Quote sent to me by a true friend, author unknown).
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Post #175,491
9/21/04 4:55:35 PM
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Anime? Yeah.
I hate it. All over the place.
Begone, otaku gaijin!
Peter
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Post #175,492
9/21/04 4:58:23 PM
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3 for 2 Manga sale at Borders this weekend...
Regards,
-scott anderson
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Post #175,482
9/21/04 4:42:25 PM
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Doing something else with his hand, I reckon.(*fap fap fap*)
Two out of three people wonder where the other one is.
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Post #175,490
9/21/04 4:53:22 PM
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Is it a bit Orwellian of you?
Safety is Destruction?
--
... a reference to Presidente Arbusto.
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Post #175,518
9/21/04 6:49:20 PM
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Simple Jungian analysis?
. . a fantasy built on errors now well into it's second century of uselessness - save to prpetuate sales of Mercedes cars to perpetrators of a successful quackery - and to give persons with more money than sense something to talk about at cocktail parties.
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Post #175,533
9/21/04 7:57:14 PM
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Freud, perhaps?
C'mon - %fixed stats re "analysis" aside..
[I mean.. that's about Bizness; we Know what bizness 'demands']
it just ain't kewl to diss CGJ; his was the most metaphysical of the pioneers in drilling holes into the jelloware Blue Meanies. It is er axiomatic that "meta-" ideas never survive commercialization. They have other uses.
I think you can't read Jung for some bloody stupid "analysis technique", even if that's what academies etc always Do with anybody's ideas. Anyway (and also aside from the efficacy or no of Ross's summaries) .. I'da thot you might have some acquaintance with the old boy [?]
Obv this gaggle of a few billions of an 'Earth infestation' is nearing terminal viciousness; I think that means we need all the help we can find. There is 'some' in CGJ's work - what have we got to lose, that isn't already in jeopardy?
moi
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Post #175,553
9/21/04 10:00:57 PM
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Whatever - even you have limitations it seems
-drl
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Post #175,604
9/22/04 8:35:24 AM
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Heh. On this subject, you're positively David Icke.
Peter
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