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New Shouldn't kernel 2.6 be faster than 2.4?
I just installed it and this thing is dragging. Granted, I've got a low-end machine, but I thought this upgrade was supposed to boost speed.
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New Odd. Faster here...

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New Depends.
By default the 2.6.x kernels are faster.

But, Debian is getting a bit whacked right now during the rush to release (yeah right... probably 3-5 months away) that some things are being done that may slow down you machine.

hdparm is a good thing to install for the 2.6.x kernel. Turning on DMA and 32-bit access and mult-sec transfers.

Also, look at what is being loaded as far as modules... sometimes things are getting loaded you don't want. Personally I am deleting all IPV6, OpenSoundSystem (OSS) and some AGP modules. I then usae alsa for sound (default in 2.6) Then I start looking at other things just running.

You might be a bit memory starved.
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New Heh, you think?
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New Perhaps you need to kill all the *IDLE* processes?


Peter
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New And now, I shall SHUN you a second time
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New Just did lsmod ... *way* too much running
Not much listed in /etc/modules, so where do I go to start trimmimg?
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New Personally:
You will have lotsa modules now with 2.6.

But all depends on what is there. I nuke ipv6 modules (they are re-installable) and OSS (open sound system) and some agp stuff as my nvidia stuff dunnah like agpgart or via_agp

There is a blacklist of modules you never want loaded at startup. Hotplug and discover will load eveyrthing under the blooming sun right now. Blacklists for each one :)... Fun eh?
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  Security: We got another Mass Exodus Doorway Jam.
New Dupe, ignore.
This isn't the dupe you're looking for.\r\n\r\nMove along, move along.


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Expand Edited by pwhysall June 17, 2004, 02:56:08 PM EDT
New feh
ccordelia:/home/peter# uname -a\r\nLinux cordelia 2.6.6 #1 SMP Sat Jun 5 20:15:08 BST 2004 i686 GNU/Linux\r\ncordelia:/home/peter# lsmod\r\nModule                  Size  Used by\r\nfglrx                 207116  10\r\ncordelia:/home/peter#\r\n
:-)


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New Welcome to we-be-a-ninnie.
Peter, how many times have you Grouched at me for compiling a kernel?

Peter, are you telling me *YOU* compiled a NON-STOCK kernel then?

FOR SHAME.... FOR SHAME!
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New Er, never. Why?


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New ...
Everytime I compiled a kernel YOU said something on the order of:

Nobody needs to compile a kernel for a "Home" system e-var, you stupid Colonial Twit.


Those kinds of comments stick in ones memory a bit longer.
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New You're thinking of someone else.
And it's "illiterate colonial baboon", you illiterate colonial baboon.


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New That explains it...
You "Stupid Empirical Idiot."
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New Still slow as hell booting, and even worse opening apps
I know I'm low on memory, but no more than I was with the 2.4 kernel. I just booted into the old kernel to check and it's still noticeable faster.
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New Are you sure you are using hdparm yet?
Cause iffin you ain't you are seriously missing out.

I know that 2.6 is much more usable when DMA, Mults, 32/wsync access and read-ahed enbaled.

2.4 also benefits from that, but not as much as 2.6

From my /etc/hdparm.conf:
/dev/hda {
io32_support = 3
read_ahead_sect = 256
dma = on
read_only = on
interrupt_unmask = on
}
/dev/hdc {
io32_support = 3
read_ahead_sect = 256
dma = on
interrupt_unmask = on
}
/dev/hde {
mult_sect_io = 16
lookahead = on
io32_support = 3
read_ahead_sect = 256
dma = on
acoustic_management = 254
}
/dev/hdg {
mult_sect_io = 16
io32_support = 3
read_ahead_sect = 256
dma = on
acoustic_management = 254
}


Be cautioned as the read_ahead_sect is LOTS lower for 2.4 (I think 8 or 16)
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New Mine, the whole file is commented out
How do I know what's the right config for me?
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New Here is what I use...
The Specs from the HD or:

duke:~# hdparm -acdgiIkmnru /dev/hde\n\n/dev/hde:\n multcount    = 16 (on)\n IO_support   =  3 (32-bit w/sync)\n unmaskirq    =  0 (off)\n using_dma    =  1 (on)\n keepsettings =  0 (off)\n nowerr       =  0 (off)\n readonly     =  0 (off)\n readahead    = 256 (on)\n geometry     = 65535/16/63, sectors = 117347328, start = 0\n\n Model=WDC WD600BB-23CAA1, FwRev=17.07W17, SerialNo=WD-WMA8F3496798\n Config={ HardSect NotMFM HdSw>15uSec SpinMotCtl Fixed DTR>5Mbs FmtGapReq }\n RawCHS=16383/16/63, TrkSize=57600, SectSize=600, ECCbytes=40\n BuffType=DualPortCache, BuffSize=2048kB, MaxMultSect=16, MultSect=16\n CurCHS=16383/16/63, CurSects=16514064, LBA=yes, LBAsects=117347328\n IORDY=on/off, tPIO={min:120,w/IORDY:120}, tDMA={min:120,rec:120}\n PIO modes:  pio0 pio1 pio2 pio3 pio4\n DMA modes:  mdma0 mdma1 mdma2\n UDMA modes: udma0 udma1 udma2 udma3 udma4 *udma5\n AdvancedPM=no WriteCache=enabled\n Drive conforms to: device does not report version:\n\n * signifies the current active mode\n\n\nATA device, with non-removable media\n        Model Number:       WDC WD600BB-23CAA1\n        Serial Number:      WD-WMA8F3496798\n        Firmware Revision:  17.07W17\nStandards:\n        Supported: 5 4 3 2\n        Likely used: 6\nConfiguration:\n        Logical         max     current\n        cylinders       16383   16383\n        heads           16      16\n        sectors/track   63      63\n        --\n        CHS current addressable sectors:   16514064\n        LBA    user addressable sectors:  117347328\n        device size with M = 1024*1024:       57298 MBytes\n        device size with M = 1000*1000:       60081 MBytes (60 GB)\nCapabilities:\n        LBA, IORDY(can be disabled)\n        bytes avail on r/w long: 40     Queue depth: 1\n        Standby timer values: spec'd by Standard, with device specific minimum\n        R/W multiple sector transfer: Max = 16  Current = 16\n        Recommended acoustic management value: 128, current value: 254\n        DMA: mdma0 mdma1 mdma2 udma0 udma1 udma2 udma3 udma4 *udma5\n             Cycle time: min=120ns recommended=120ns\n        PIO: pio0 pio1 pio2 pio3 pio4\n             Cycle time: no flow control=120ns  IORDY flow control=120ns\nCommands/features:\n        Enabled Supported:\n           *    READ BUFFER cmd\n           *    WRITE BUFFER cmd\n           *    Host Protected Area feature set\n           *    Look-ahead\n           *    Write cache\n           *    Power Management feature set\n                Security Mode feature set\n           *    SMART feature set\n           *    Device Configuration Overlay feature set\n           *    Automatic Acoustic Management feature set\n                SET MAX security extension\n           *    DOWNLOAD MICROCODE cmd\n           *    SMART self-test\n           *    SMART error logging\nSecurity:\n                supported\n        not     enabled\n        not     locked\n        not     frozen\n        not     expired: security count\n        not     supported: enhanced erase\nHW reset results:\n        CBLID- above Vih\n        Device num = 0 determined by CSEL\nChecksum: correct\nduke:~#

Pull the bits and pieces out of that.
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Heard near the SCOG employee entry/exit way:

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New So that command shows what the drive supports?
Then I just need to find the bits that match the hdparm config file? Okay, will try tonight.
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     Shouldn't kernel 2.6 be faster than 2.4? - (drewk) - (19)
         Odd. Faster here... -NT - (imric)
         Depends. - (folkert) - (12)
             Heh, you think? -NT - (drewk) - (2)
                 Perhaps you need to kill all the *IDLE* processes? -NT - (pwhysall) - (1)
                     And now, I shall SHUN you a second time -NT - (drewk)
             Just did lsmod ... *way* too much running - (drewk) - (8)
                 Personally: - (folkert) - (7)
                     Dupe, ignore. - (pwhysall)
                     feh - (pwhysall) - (5)
                         Welcome to we-be-a-ninnie. - (folkert) - (4)
                             Er, never. Why? -NT - (pwhysall) - (3)
                                 ... - (folkert) - (2)
                                     You're thinking of someone else. - (pwhysall) - (1)
                                         That explains it... - (folkert)
         Still slow as hell booting, and even worse opening apps - (drewk) - (4)
             Are you sure you are using hdparm yet? - (folkert) - (3)
                 Mine, the whole file is commented out - (drewk) - (2)
                     Here is what I use... - (folkert) - (1)
                         So that command shows what the drive supports? - (drewk)

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