Post #157,850
5/31/04 11:17:02 AM
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Working was fun..
..in 1970, so say the people in Studs Terkel's book "Working". That was then, this is now.
[link|http://nytimes.com/2004/05/31/opinion/31MON3.html|http://nytimes.com/2...inion/31MON3.html]
Things are badly screwed up on a very basic level, and there is nothing anyone can do about it.
-drl
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Post #157,865
5/31/04 3:44:53 PM
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It'll be better ........... after the revolution.
Which will come as soon as enough of us are hungry. As soon as enough of us realize that the lunatic militia's that blow up federal buildings, kill federal agents, etc. have the right idea but the wrong target. We should be blowing up corporate headquarters, killing the CIEFO's, disrupting all digital transfer of wealth, etc.
bcnu,
Mikem
If you can read this, you are not the President.
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Post #157,907
5/31/04 10:14:24 PM
5/31/04 10:18:35 PM
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How about?
Just not buying stuff? Or buying local, instead of big company?
I'm not talking about groceries, but cars, and electronics, and computers, and clothes, and stuff.
I'm almost to the point that Americans need to do their duty and boycott Wal-Mart. We still have a "regional" grocery store in East Texas called Brookshires. Shop at Brookshires instead of Wal-Mart.
Buy from the local Pizza Guy (Amore's or Campizi's, here), and not from Domino's, Pizza Hut, or any other multi-national.
It gets harder when you get to cars, but you can pick the mom-and-pop dealership in Celina, TX instead of one of the AutoNation dealerships in Metro-Dallas.
Buy donuts from the Southern Maid, home owned franchise store instead of from Krispy Kreme.
And the list goes on. There are still choices, and these smaller merchants need our money much more than the big places.
Buy dinner from Ming Garden (mom and pop chinese), instead of Olive Garden or Macaroni Grill.
If everyone did this, and ignored the high budget TV ads, etc. Our local merchants would love us, and you would "stick it" to the big guys.
So, boycott WalMart, please try. And while your at it, avoid shopping with the major "multi-national" corporations.
Heck, there's even a local computer store here, called eXtreme Computers. Not too many of those left. They NEED our business.
Glen Austin
Edited by gdaustin
May 31, 2004, 10:17:02 PM EDT
Edited by gdaustin
May 31, 2004, 10:18:35 PM EDT
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Post #157,913
5/31/04 11:15:53 PM
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They need one more thing...
they need money. These corporate guys all play well together When the productivity gains of the last 30 years are enjoyed by only a few, then the many have less - which allows a Wal-Mart to exist.
bcnu,
Mikem
If you can read this, you are not the President.
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Post #157,997
6/1/04 2:00:44 PM
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The simple fact of the matter is
those huge behemoth companies get a 30% break on price over everybody else, simply for being big. There's some good reason for that, but as long as that goes on you're going to have the same kinds of problems you see now.
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Post #157,945
6/1/04 2:56:53 AM
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Re: Krispy Kreme.
Hey, Krispy Kreme is a North Carolina company! Winston-Salem to be specific.
Alex
Honor has not to be won; it must only not be lost. -- Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860), German philosopher
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Post #158,390
6/4/04 9:47:58 AM
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OT: Alex, are you local NC? (new thread)
Created as new thread #158389 titled [link|/forums/render/content/show?contentid=158389|OT: Alex, are you local NC?]
jb4
shrub\ufffdbish (Am., from shrub + rubbish, after the derisive name for America's 43 president; 2003) n. 1. a form of nonsensical political doubletalk wherein the speaker attempts to defend the indefensible by lying, obfuscation, or otherwise misstating the facts; GIBBERISH. 2. any of a collection of utterances from America's putative 43rd president. cf. BULLSHIT
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Post #157,996
6/1/04 1:58:52 PM
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Been doing that for years.
Interestingly enough, there are three locally owned and operated downtown computer retailers here that build their own systems. I always buy from them; I might spend a couple of hundred more, but I get to have fine grained control over what goes into the machine, and not a blank "huh" when I ask about more obscure hardware... and operating systems.
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Post #158,011
6/1/04 3:18:41 PM
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Re: Been doing that for years.
I also turn locals who ask me for advice on buying a computer - I tell them to go to one of the local shops instead of Dell. The big selling point is service - I ask them, "do you want to ship your computer back to Dell, out of your pocket, have them wipe all your data out, then tell you the problem is fixed, only to have it start again three days later, or take it to a local shop, wait half an hour, then take it home again?"
They generally go with the local shop.
Tired of lying in the sunshine staying home to watch the rain.
You are young and life is long and there is time to kill today.
And then one day you find ten years have got behind you.
No one told you when to run, you missed the starting gun.
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Post #159,837
6/13/04 11:52:19 PM
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I already boycott Walmart/SAMS
John can't stand the store and we never shop there. :)
Nightowl >8#
"AHHHHH! Relatives coming out of the woodwork!!!!!!"
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Post #157,908
5/31/04 10:15:24 PM
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Re: It'll be better ........... after the revolution.
Unforcinatly Revolution rearly solves anything it just creats other issues to deal with but in the end peoples Greed will preveal(spell?)
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Post #157,915
5/31/04 11:19:43 PM
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We could learn from the Greeks.
I watched the Socialist Party's Vice Presidential candidate on C-SPAN today. She said that she believed that the Greeks had it about right. That no one in a society should have more than ten times the amount the average citizen had. I think that's about right. Moreover, she pointed out how heinous it was that the corrupt USSC had maintained that corporations should enjoy the rights of a person (i.e. that Amendments 14 and 1 apply to corporations) and that she was sickened that the USSC had ruled that "money is speech". Well, if we embrace the idea that a corporation is a "person" and the idea that no "person" should have more than 10 times the amount of the average person, I could live with that.
bcnu,
Mikem
If you can read this, you are not the President.
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Post #158,084
6/2/04 10:04:22 AM
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What was the name of that famous Greek Ruler
who had people's heads and feet chopped off if they were too long to fit on his bed, or stretched them with ropes if they were too short. "Procrustos" is the name that comes to mind.
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Buy high, sell sober.
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Post #158,086
6/2/04 10:18:07 AM
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Procrustes, I believe
Hence, the term 'Procrustean solution'.
Tom Sinclair
"While I'm still confused and uncertain, it's on a much higher plane, d'you
see, and at least I know I'm bewildered about the really fundamental and
important facts of the universe."
Treatle nodded. "I hadn't looked at it like that," he said, "But you're
absolutely right. He's really pushed back the boundaries of ignorance."
-- Discworld scientists at work
(Terry Pratchett, Equal Rites)
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Post #158,089
6/2/04 10:40:15 AM
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Sounds like a breakfast cereal...
Imric's Tips for Living
- Paranoia Is a Survival Trait
- Pessimists are never disappointed - but sometimes, if they are very lucky, they can be pleasantly surprised...
- Even though everyone is out to get you, it doesn't matter unless you let them win.
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Nothing is as simple as it seems in the beginning,
As hopeless as it seems in the middle,
Or as finished as it seems in the end.
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Post #158,099
6/2/04 11:18:43 AM
6/2/04 11:18:57 AM
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But he wasn't a king
Merely the owner of a house (and "miraculous bed!") who Theseus killed on his way to Athens.
Cheers,
Ben
To deny the indirect purchaser, who in this case is the ultimate purchaser, the right to seek relief from unlawful conduct, would essentially remove the word consumer from the Consumer Protection Act
- [link|http://www.techworld.com/opsys/news/index.cfm?NewsID=1246&Page=1&pagePos=20|Nebraska Supreme Court]
Edited by ben_tilly
June 2, 2004, 11:18:57 AM EDT
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Post #158,105
6/2/04 11:59:12 AM
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Roight, *I* didn't vote for 'im!
Regards,
-scott anderson
"Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
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Post #158,182
6/2/04 6:52:14 PM
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The Original 'spreadsheet'
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Post #158,219
6/3/04 1:57:04 AM
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What? VisiCalc The Great, Emperor Of The Known World?
Peter
[link|http://www.debian.org|Shill For Hire]
[link|http://www.kuro5hin.org|There is no K5 Cabal]
[link|http://guildenstern.dyndns.org|Blog]
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Post #158,226
6/3/04 3:44:17 AM
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Danicvs Briklinvs I [*]
.. and he made a present of it! to all the grubby little accountants everywhere.
Musta known it would be Pandora's Box, lead to Beastware, more Black Tulip crazes and terminal ennui, just after burnout is complete.
[*] surely the genetic antecedent of er Adobe..
- muddying up the works.
..the sly fox
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Post #158,278
6/3/04 2:37:02 PM
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"One size fits all"
To deny the indirect purchaser, who in this case is the ultimate purchaser, the right to seek relief from unlawful conduct, would essentially remove the word consumer from the Consumer Protection Act
- [link|http://www.techworld.com/opsys/news/index.cfm?NewsID=1246&Page=1&pagePos=20|Nebraska Supreme Court]
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