Post #153,582
5/3/04 9:29:05 PM
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Palestine, I said.
Otherwise, does not match Cyprus situation. Did Greeks come to Cyprus from Turkey? Did Turks come to Cyprus from Greece? Bzzzt!
And in any case, expulsion of Jews came after attrocities against locals by Jews in Palestine. Before that, those same Jews were in those Arab countries for hundreds if not thousands of years. Besides, that was part of the Zionist plan to populate Palestine with Jews. Is that not obvious? :)
Alex
There are 10 kinds of people in the world: those who understand binary, and those who don't.
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Post #153,586
5/3/04 9:39:01 PM
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what year were those atrocities?
of course you dont count any of the arab atrocities prior to 1948, why not? Because you have bought into the idea that jews dont belong there and must leave or turn their lives over to the arabs. You may continue to hope for that, I cannot change your mind.
thanx,
bill
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Post #153,591
5/3/04 10:13:48 PM
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There is nothing wrong with Jews being there.
Some have been there as long as anyone. The others needed to have come to live in peace and not as conquerors to form a theocracy and ethnically cleanse and dispossess the natives. They had much to add to the local backward culture. Instead, they have matched, to the degree they can get away with it, the worst oppressors of Jews throughout history.
Not all Israeli Jews fit the mold I describe, just the majority.
Alex
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Post #153,610
5/4/04 2:49:11 AM
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Many Arabs were not from Palestine
As Mark Twain and every other traveler in the region commented "...[a] desolate country whose soil is rich enough, but is given over wholly to weeds-a silent mournful expanse....A desolation is here that not even imagination can grace with the pomp of life and action....We never saw a human being on the whole route....There was hardly a tree or a shrub anywhere. Even the olive and the cactus, those fast friends of the worthless soil, had almost deserted the country."
Where were all those millions of Palestinian hiding? The answer is that they weren't there. They only migrated to Palestine after the Jews came and economic growth picked up. The fact is that there was a population transfer, 800,000 Jews fled Arab countries, 800,000 Arabs fled Palestine, end of story.
Even Yasir Arafat the quintessential Palestinian was born in Cairo. Arafat is no more a Palestinian then I am.
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Post #153,646
5/4/04 9:02:16 AM
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And you were born where?
Alex
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Post #153,650
5/4/04 9:40:42 AM
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New York, NY
Like I said neither one of us was born there
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Post #153,718
5/4/04 1:22:06 PM
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Both of Arafat's parents were Palestinian.
But magically you have more rights there.
Alex
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Post #153,737
5/4/04 2:18:42 PM
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If he went to palestine his rights would be snuffed
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Post #153,727
5/4/04 1:43:13 PM
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Let me introduce you to some Jerusalem rock formations.
[link|http://www.noblesanctuary.com/|Dome of the Rock and Al-Aqsa Mosque]. Built in 685 CE (i.e. AD). Do you just suppose that might say something about who lived here?
Alex
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Post #153,738
5/4/04 2:26:02 PM
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I got yer rock formations right here
[link|http://www.bibleplaces.com/holysepulcher.htm|http://www.bibleplac...holysepulcher.htm]
built in 330 AD, so who lives here again? Dont mix race and religion.
thanx,
bill
attempting to explain profiling doesn't require one to take a position for or against it any more than attempting to explain gravity requires one to be for or against gravity. Walter Williams
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Post #153,746
5/4/04 2:52:59 PM
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So you agree Jerusalem should be an international city ...
as originally intended by the UN. Works for me.
Alex
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Post #153,748
5/4/04 3:07:21 PM
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always have agreed that it should be international
With it being the capitol of Israel and Palestine run by a religious council of all the faiths and either ghurkas or Sihks providing security much like the swiss provide vatican security.
thanx,
bill
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Post #153,750
5/4/04 3:17:13 PM
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That's a winner. I'd pick the Ghurkas.
Alex
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Post #153,752
5/4/04 4:10:22 PM
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both are warriors with no dogs in that fight
attempting to explain profiling doesn't require one to take a position for or against it any more than attempting to explain gravity requires one to be for or against gravity. Walter Williams
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Post #153,766
5/4/04 5:58:53 PM
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Love their pickles....
jb4
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