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New So bad that no paradigm wants to claim it?
An OO approach would be to have a credit card object that could be asked are you valid, and charge this amount....the [EJB] credit card object is just a dumb data holder

Note that not every OO affectionado agrees that OO is about "self-handling nouns". Majority? I don't know.
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New Huh? Are you making up stuff as you go along, again?
Bryce quotes BLuke:
[Referring to [link|http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/wlg/1322|this blog entry]:] An OO approach would be to have a credit card object that could be asked are you valid, and charge this amount....the [EJB] credit card object is just a dumb data holder
To which Bryce replies:
Note that not every OO affectionado agrees that OO is about "self-handling nouns". Majority? I don't know.
Whu, whoo, what???

Now what orifice did you pull this shit out of?!?

When and where did you gain the impression that "not every OO affectionado [sic] agrees that OO is about 'self-handling nouns'"?

That's THE most basic trait of OOP; pretty much the DEFINITION of it.

I can't see how anyone can BE an "OO 'affectionado'" without agreeing with at least THAT.

Unless you show references, I'm going to assume that you either:

A) have misunderstood what some "OO 'affectionado'" was saying [you DO realise that Dion Almaer was arguing FOR "self-handling nouns"?]; or

B) mistook some non-"OO 'affectionado'" for an "OO 'affectionado'"; or

C) are intentionally PRETENDING to have got something wrong à la A or B, in order to (make [even more of] an ass out of yourself by trying to) bolster the pathetic arguments of your moronic anti-OO crusade.


Give us verifiable references of a bona fide "OO 'affectionado'" arguing that "OO is NOT about 'self-handling nouns'", or tell us which of the above it is.

Personally, I'm guessing it's C.


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     Are EJBs really this painful? - (ben_tilly) - (15)
         AdminiScott's dislike of them seems rather reasonable. -NT - (CRConrad)
         Yes ... - (bluke) - (5)
             IDE Generating boilerplate - (tuberculosis) - (4)
                 Can someone give a good explanation of Home, Remote, etc? - (bluke) - (3)
                     It *doesn't* need them. - (admin) - (1)
                         I think EJB's came from IBM -NT - (bluke)
                     Theoretical distributability - (tuberculosis)
         Yes. -NT - (admin)
         It's worse - (ChrisR)
         They purposely F'd it up to make OO look bad -NT - (tablizer) - (4)
             Actually EJB's have little to do with OO - (bluke) - (3)
                 So bad that no paradigm wants to claim it? - (tablizer) - (2)
                     Huh? Are you making up stuff as you go along, again? - (CRConrad) - (1)
                         Old school usenet style. -NT - (jake123)
         OK, I get it! - (jb4)

I'm gonna grab you by your Supercut and shake you like a fresh glowstick!
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