Post #139,892
2/4/04 10:50:24 PM
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Yeah ...Right.
Degrees from Yale and Harvard.
Flew F-16's which require more education than Yale & Harvard offered.
Most Americans don't agree with you.
--Bob
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Post #139,894
2/4/04 11:01:09 PM
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flying is reflexes and practice
with good spatial vision, you could teach any person who is comfortable in 3 dimension space how to fly one. On the other hand I know few pilots who would make good air traffic controllers running without any instrumentation, that is one scary hardbrained act to do right.
thanx,
bill
I do hold an englishman's brothel is his castle , where he should behave accordingly--as many flash tails as he likes , but none of the troop fornications that the orientals and germans indulge in. Its not the indecency I mind , but the company of a lot of boozy brutes hallooing and kicking up a deuce of a row when I want to concentrate and give off my best. A regular bacchanalia is something to see right enough, but I am with the discriminating Frog who said that one is interesting, but only a cad would make a habit of it.
Sir Harold Flashman esquire VC OBE
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Post #139,901
2/4/04 11:40:28 PM
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Re: Yeah ...Right.
Most Americans are going to throw this fascist lying punk out on his smirking ass come November. Wait, most Americans did that 4 years ago come November.
Degrees are for sale (like drugs and whores). Everything is for sale in the world of the privileged.
Only an idiot could say things like this:
[link|http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/blbushisms.htm|http://politicalhumo...ry/blbushisms.htm]
He lacks basic language skills that most Harvard undergrads have had since grammar school. You think this is coincidental? I seriously doubt Bush could pull a 400 on the SAT verbal test.
As for the Bush-pilot: There were no F16s in the late 60s - he supposedly flew the F102 Delta Dagger interceptor, but only recorded 22 days of active duty, and failed to complete his assignment - in other words, went AWOL.
-drl
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Post #139,910
2/5/04 12:21:20 AM
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None of those things
means he's not an idiot. They only mean that he's educated.
I know plenty of educated idiots. Don't you?
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Post #139,925
2/5/04 1:08:09 AM
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F-102s not F-16s
And he scored a whopping 25% on his pilot aptitude screening test.
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Chris Altmann
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Post #139,930
2/5/04 2:08:30 AM
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Right
Technically speaking the Convair F102 is not a fighter, rather an interceptor. It handled like shit because its only purpose was to go on afterburner until it was in missle range of a Soviet bomber. It had an undistiguished career with the Air Force and was retired by 1960, replaced as interceptor by the F104 and F106 and then by the F4 which had vastly superior range and flight characteristics. Active AF squadrons with primary mission were operational for only a short time in the late 50s because of limited range and speed. Its direct replacement was the Convair F106 "Delta Dart", which was in production for only a short time. Delta wing jets were too clunkly to be useful. Convair was ditched by the AF for producing low-performance aircraft.
IOW by 1970 the F102 was a useless piece of junk reduced to escort duty for B52s in Vietnam, or in the ANG.
-drl
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Post #139,931
2/5/04 2:09:19 AM
2/5/04 2:13:13 AM
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-drl
Edited by deSitter
Feb. 5, 2004, 02:12:40 AM EST
Edited by deSitter
Feb. 5, 2004, 02:13:13 AM EST
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Post #139,963
2/5/04 9:20:42 AM
2/5/04 9:27:44 AM
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Actually, even most Americans didn't agree
remember, Bush did NOT win the popular vote.
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Post #139,981
2/5/04 11:39:00 AM
2/5/04 11:44:09 AM
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Degrees
The vast majority of the internet bubble companies had senior exec teams composed entirely of MBA's from Yale and Harvard. They were mostly idiots and scammers. Not sane business people.
You certainly need a lot of cash and pull to get one of those - but it says more about your family connections than your intelligence. The fact is, the vast majority of kids of wealthy people are slacker idiots without the acumen to manage their existing holdings much less build new ones.
Doubt me? Two words: Paris Hilton.
If the Harvard MBA is so valuable - why is W (along with the rest of the dot bomb ivy leaguers) unable to perform basic accounting? Any 1st year *engineering* student is familiar with basic mass balance principles (or what goes out must = what goes in). Its the same in accounting. Somehow, W seems to believe that the US Treasury works on the same principles as his allowance - keep spending, don't add any more and wait for the magic deposits that just seem to show up when things get out of hand (courtesy of daddy, generally).
.....To the future or to the past, to a time when thought is free, when men are different from one another and do not live alone -- to a time when truth exists and what is done cannot be undone:
.....From the age of uniformity, from the age of solitude, from the age of Big Brother, from the age of doublethink -- greetings!
-- George Orwell, 1984
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Post #140,039
2/5/04 2:09:33 PM
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Because that isn't what an MBA teaches
Cynical answer?
MBAs teach how to figure out which businesses are valuable, get in charge of them and get rich from taht, not how to make the business in question perform well.
The MBAs that you are complaining about, as well as George W. Bush, illustrate their effectiveness at what they were trained to do. That you don't see how effective they are merely indicates that you are looking in the wrong place.
Cheers,
Ben
"good ideas and bad code build communities, the other three combinations do not"
- [link|http://archives.real-time.com/pipermail/cocoon-devel/2000-October/003023.html|Stefano Mazzocchi]
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Post #140,042
2/5/04 2:23:13 PM
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So MBA is a trained parasite
That we agree on.
.....To the future or to the past, to a time when thought is free, when men are different from one another and do not live alone -- to a time when truth exists and what is done cannot be undone:
.....From the age of uniformity, from the age of solitude, from the age of Big Brother, from the age of doublethink -- greetings!
-- George Orwell, 1984
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Post #140,051
2/5/04 2:52:54 PM
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Yes, and this one has leached onto the whole country :-(
"good ideas and bad code build communities, the other three combinations do not"
- [link|http://archives.real-time.com/pipermail/cocoon-devel/2000-October/003023.html|Stefano Mazzocchi]
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Post #140,049
2/5/04 2:42:48 PM
2/5/04 2:44:08 PM
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College teaches theories
and does not teach experience. While one can be book smart and know the theories, one cannot gain the experience without learning on their own what works and what does not work. Many MBAs I have seen even do not follow the theories that they learned. Almost as if they forgot everything they learned. Theories that I am just now learning have been in business for over 100 years, yet I have only seen a few managers in my entire career actually use them.
One substitute instructor told me that managers may not have the time and/or money to implement theories and thus do things the idiotic way and that I'd do the same under the same circumstances. This to me is BS, theories like postive reinforcement can be done with $0USD by just complementing the worker on a job well done when they do good. It helps them have a bit of job satsifaction when a manager says they are doing good. Plus it only takes about 15 seconds to do. Most managers I had never did that with me, and if they did I would have felt better about my job.
Edit: I know college teaches a lot more than theories, but consider that I am talking about theories not being followed here.
"Lady I only speak two languages, English and Bad English!" - Corbin Dallas "The Fifth Element"
Edited by orion
Feb. 5, 2004, 02:44:08 PM EST
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Post #139,996
2/5/04 12:21:11 PM
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I was going to point out your error about airplanes, but, ..
that's been covered. The "Harvard" and "Yale" admissions were LEGACY admissions. I guess you want to give the idiot credit for having the good sense to be born into wealth.
AFA the idiot's academic credentials go, he's probably the only college graduate to ever apply to a state college law school and Harvard Graduate school in the same year, be rejected by the state college but accepted to Harvard.
Do try to pay some attention, will you?
bcnu,
Mikem
I don't do third world languages. So no, I don't do Java.
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