Re: Thane versus wharris2

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Post #12,926 by inthane-chan 10/11/01 2:05:14 PM Reply	Re: Thane versus wharris2 1.e4 c5 2.b3 Actually, let's refrain from commentary until the match is over, okay? Please, no kibbitzing. "He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you." - Friedrich Nietzsche
Post #12,975 by ben_tilly 10/11/01 4:17:18 PM Reply	Kibitz, kibitz, kibitz... And already at the second move, Inthane disregards the opening books! Casts theory to the winds! And plays the highly unconventional 2.b3! WHAT is his plan? WHAT will we see next in this exciting game? STAY TUNED... (Am I annoying yet?) /duck Ben PS Sorry, no more kibitzing. It is just that after your request, I couldn't resist doing it just once as a joke. And you will note that I did no discussing of actual potential moves.
Post #13,188 by wharris2 10/12/01 7:44:02 PM Reply	Noncommital move 1.e4 c5 2.b3!?!? Nc6 Who knows how empty the sky is In the place of a fallen tower. Who knows how quiet it is in the home Where a son has not returned. -- Anna Akhmatova (1889-1966)
Post #13,329 by inthane-chan 10/15/01 11:58:11 AM Reply	Somehow, I might be in a spot of trouble... "Know your enemy," my instructor always said... And now I may pay the price for not knowing my enemy. 1.e4 c5 2.b3 Nc6 3.Bb2 "He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you." - Friedrich Nietzsche
Post #13,392 by wharris2 10/15/01 2:35:20 PM Reply	Re: Somehow, I might be in a spot of trouble... 1.e4 c5 2.b3 Nc6 3.Bb2 e5 Who knows how empty the sky is In the place of a fallen tower. Who knows how quiet it is in the home Where a son has not returned. -- Anna Akhmatova (1889-1966)
Post #13,754 by inthane-chan 10/17/01 12:21:58 PM Reply	Re: Somehow, I might be in a spot of trouble... 1.e4 c5 2.b3 Nc6 3.Bb2 e5 4.Nc3 Sorry, for various personal reasons (home computer monitor blew out, DO NOT BUY CTX!) didn't get around to posting this move yesterday. "He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you." - Friedrich Nietzsche
Post #13,755 by wharris2 10/17/01 12:27:04 PM Reply	Re: Somehow, I might be in a spot of trouble... 1.e4 c5 2.b3 Nc6 3.Bb2 e5 4.Nc3 Nge7 Beware of bugs in the above code; I have only proved it correct, not tried it. -- Donald Knuth
Post #15,748 by inthane-chan 10/30/01 12:41:42 PM Reply	Blech 1.e4 c5 2.b3 Nc6 3.Bb2 e5 4.Nc3 Nge7 5.Bc4 "He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you." - Friedrich Nietzsche
Post #15,752 by wharris2 10/30/01 1:12:23 PM Reply	Move 5 1.e4 c5 2.b3 Nc6 3.Bb2 e5 4.Nc3 Nge7 5.Bc4 d6 "Beware of bugs in the above code; I have only proved it correct, not tried it." -- Donald Knuth
Post #16,059 by inthane-chan 11/1/01 1:46:28 PM Reply	Re: Move 5 1.e4 c5 2.b3 Nc6 3.Bb2 e5 4.Nc3 Nge7 5.Bc4 d6 6.Nf3 "He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you." - Friedrich Nietzsche
Post #16,296 by wharris2 11/2/01 11:39:10 PM Reply	Re: Move 5 1.e4 c5 2.b3 Nc6 3.Bb2 e5 4.Nc3 Nge7 5.Bc4 d6 6.Nf3 g6 "Beware of bugs in the above code; I have only proved it correct, not tried it." -- Donald Knuth
Post #16,679 by inthane-chan 11/5/01 4:49:56 PM Reply	Move 7 1.e4 c5 2.b3 Nc6 3.Bb2 e5 4.Nc3 Nge7 5.Bc4 d6 6.Nf3 g6 7.Nd5 "He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you." - Friedrich Nietzsche
Post #17,104 by wharris2 11/7/01 8:53:53 AM Reply	Re: Move 7 1.e4 c5 2.b3 Nc6 3.Bb2 e5 4.Nc3 Nge7 5.Bc4 d6 6.Nf3 g6 7.Nd5 Nxd5 "Beware of bugs in the above code; I have only proved it correct, not tried it." -- Donald Knuth
Post #17,135 by inthane-chan 11/7/01 11:45:26 AM Reply	Move 8 1. e4 c5 2. b3 Nc6 3. Bb2 e5 4. Nc3 Nge7 5. Bc4 d6 6. Nf3 g6 7. Nd5 Nxd5 8. exd5 "He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you." - Friedrich Nietzsche
Post #17,325 by wharris2 11/8/01 11:57:43 AM Reply	Re: Move 8 1. e4 c5 2. b3 Nc6 3. Bb2 e5 4. Nc3 Nge7 5. Bc4 d6 6. Nf3 g6 7. Nd5 Nxd5 8. exd5 Ne7 "Beware of bugs in the above code; I have only proved it correct, not tried it." -- Donald Knuth
Post #17,331 by inthane-chan 11/8/01 12:16:13 PM Reply	Move 9 1. e4 c5 2. b3 Nc6 3. Bb2 e5 4. Nc3 Nge7 5. Bc4 d6 6. Nf3 g6 7. Nd5 Nxd5 8. exd5 Ne7 9. c3 As a sideline, I explored 9. Bb5+, but didn't like where it took me - unless you were acting REALLY weird, we would have exchanged bishops, then you'd have a lock on the center outright. "He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you." - Friedrich Nietzsche
Post #17,417 by wharris2 11/8/01 8:24:59 PM Reply	Re: Move 9 (and a minor dang) I wish I'd kept track of a chess recording program I had back when I was more active in postal and OTB play. The thing did almost nothing except record and display moves, very few bells and whistles - but it did what it did very well. In that era of Windows 3.1 software, I don't think I ever had it crash. 1. e4 c5 2. b3 Nc6 3. Bb2 e5 4. Nc3 Nge7 5. Bc4 d6 6. Nf3 g6 7. Nd5 Nxd5 8. exd5 Ne7 9. c3 Bg7 Presumably the intent of c3 is d4 or b4. "Beware of bugs in the above code; I have only proved it correct, not tried it." -- Donald Knuth
Post #17,484 by inthane-chan 11/9/01 11:29:01 AM Reply	Move 10 1. e4 c5 2. b3 Nc6 3. Bb2 e5 4. Nc3 Nge7 5. Bc4 d6 6. Nf3 g6 7. Nd5 Nxd5 8. exd5 Ne7 9. c3 Bg7 10.h3 "He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you." - Friedrich Nietzsche
Post #17,661 by wharris2 11/10/01 1:41:43 AM Reply	Re: Move 10 6. Nf3 g6 7. Nd5 Nxd5 8. exd5 Ne7 9. c3 Bg7 10.h3 f5 OK. As if I were going to g4 with my bishop in the first place. I suppose your knight is doing anything? Oh it might invade e6, but I'll get that tiny pawn and grab everything left of the center. "Beware of bugs in the above code; I have only proved it correct, not tried it." -- Donald Knuth
Post #17,899 by inthane-chan 11/12/01 12:30:37 PM Reply	Move 11 Less talk, more chess. ^_^ 6. Nf3 g6 7. Nd5 Nxd5 8. exd5 Ne7 9. c3 Bg7 10.h3 f5 11.d4 "He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you." - Friedrich Nietzsche
Post #17,976 by wharris2 11/12/01 8:47:32 PM Reply	Move 11b 6. Nf3 g6 7. Nd5 Nxd5 8. exd5 Ne7 9. c3 Bg7 10.h3 f5 11.d4 cxd4 Part of the theory is to distract you. "Why must I lose to this fool?" (after dumping the chessboard) - Aaron Nimzovich
Post #18,049 by inthane-chan 11/13/01 11:17:09 AM Reply	Move 12 6. Nf3 g6 7. Nd5 Nxd5 8. exd5 Ne7 9. c3 Bg7 10.h3 f5 11.d4 cxd4 12.cxd4 Theory? I'm just randomly moving pieces. ^_^ "He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you." - Friedrich Nietzsche
Post #18,349 by wharris2 11/14/01 8:39:22 PM Reply	Re: Move 12 10.h3 f5 11.d4 cxd4 12.cxd4 e4 Theory? I'm just randomly moving pieces. ^_^ Oh that makes me feel much better. "Beware of bugs in the above code; I have only proved it correct, not tried it." -- Donald Knuth
Post #18,429 by inthane-chan 11/15/01 1:29:15 PM Reply	Move 13 10.h3 f5 11.d4 cxd4 12.cxd4 e4 13.Ng5 "He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you." - Friedrich Nietzsche
Post #18,487 by wharris2 11/15/01 8:31:56 PM Reply	Re: Move 13 (hook, line, sinker) 10.h3 f5 11.d4 cxd4 12.cxd4 e4 13.Ng5 Nxd5 "Beware of bugs in the above code; I have only proved it correct, not tried it." -- Donald Knuth
Post #18,548 by inthane-chan 11/16/01 11:44:36 AM Reply	Move 14 (I don't get it.) 10.h3 f5 11.d4 cxd4 12.cxd4 e4 13.Ng5 Nxd5 14.Bxd5 Either a) you have some super secret plan to take over the world or b) just dropped a Kuh-nigit for a pawn. I'm betting on a, but I don't see it... "He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you." - Friedrich Nietzsche
Post #18,607 by wharris2 11/16/01 10:14:54 PM 11/16/01 10:17:12 PM Reply	Re: Move 14 (Nothing super-secret) 10.h3 f5 11.d4 cxd4 12.cxd4 e4 13.Ng5 Nxd5 14.Bxd5 Qa5+ (I could also have done Qxg5, but I prefer to remove your bishop.) "Beware of bugs in the above code; I have only proved it correct, not tried it." -- Donald Knuth Edited by wharris2 Nov. 16, 2001, 10:17:12 PM EST Expand All History
Post #18,806 by inthane-chan 11/19/01 1:21:05 PM Reply	Move 15 I always did fall prone to stuff like that... 10.h3 f5 11.d4 cxd4 12.cxd4 e4 13.Ng5 Nxd5 14.Bxd5 Qa5+ 15.Qd2 One side note, which I am not blaming for my play, I noticed that somehow I've been misentering the moves into WinBoard, which is reporting a false position right now. My fault entirely, especially because I should have noticed the "invalid move" comments that showed up a few times... User error. ^_^ "He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you." - Friedrich Nietzsche
Post #18,880 by wharris2 11/19/01 8:30:12 PM Reply	Re: Move 15 12.cxd4 e4 13.Ng5 Nxd5 14.Bxd5 Qa5+ 15.Qd2 Qxd5 Been the victim of mis-recorded stuff myself. "Beware of bugs in the above code; I have only proved it correct, not tried it." -- Donald Knuth
Post #18,951 by inthane-chan 11/20/01 12:02:32 PM Reply	Move 16 12.cxd4 e4 13.Ng5 Nxd5 14.Bxd5 Qa5+ 15.Qd2 Qxd5 16.0-0 Yeah, but I should have noticed it when a piece I moved the previous round wasn't where I had moved it... ^_^' "He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you." - Friedrich Nietzsche
Post #19,047 by wharris2 11/20/01 9:46:37 PM Reply	Re: Move 16 12.cxd4 e4 13.Ng5 Nxd5 14.Bxd5 Qa5+ 15.Qd2 Qxd5 16.0-0 h6 Apologies, but it looks like you are in serious doo. "Beware of bugs in the above code; I have only proved it correct, not tried it." -- Donald Knuth
Post #19,114 by inthane-chan 11/21/01 11:31:24 AM Reply	Move 17: More from the book of "Duh!" 12.cxd4 e4 13.Ng5 Nxd5 14.Bxd5 Qa5+ 15.Qd2 Qxd5 16.0-0 h6 17.Nxe4 Well, yeah, I knew THAT already. :) "He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you." - Friedrich Nietzsche
Post #19,205 by wharris2 11/22/01 8:33:44 AM Reply	Re: Move 17: More from the book of "Duh!" 14.Bxd5 Qa5+ 15.Qd2 Qxd5 16.0-0 h6 17.Nxe4 fxe4 One thing I am disliking about Winboard is its desire to replay the game from the beginning, rather than letting me go to move "x". Or is that what "edit game" vs. "edit position" does? (I haven't used Winboard much, still wish I had that olden golden game recorder I remember from way back when.) "Beware of bugs in the above code; I have only proved it correct, not tried it." -- Donald Knuth
Post #13,356 by tseliot 10/15/01 1:19:05 PM Reply	!?!? LOL--We need an impartial commentator :D "A stupid despot may constrain his slaves with iron chains; but a true politician binds them even more strongly by the chain of their own ideas;...despair and time eat away the bonds of iron and steel, but they are powerless against the habitual union of ideas, they can only tighten it still more; and on the soft fibres of the brain is founded the unshakable base of the soundest of Empires." Jacques Servan, 1767
Post #13,396 by ben_tilly 10/15/01 2:41:28 PM Reply	It has been played by better than wharris OTOH so has the grob. :-) But still it is a opening with some good points. The position is solid with nothing obviously wrong. You quickly leave the tactical opening traps of the Sicilian, which wharris undoubtably knows very well. Of course it is not as strong as the traditional variations. Unorthodox openings tend to be unorthodox for a reason. And somehow I doubt that wharris will have trouble with it. But it isn't a horrible mistake either. Cheers, Ben
Post #13,759 by inthane-chan 10/17/01 12:31:14 PM Reply	But I'm sure it's been played by far worse, too... ^_^' "He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you." - Friedrich Nietzsche
Post #13,762 by wharris2 10/17/01 12:40:26 PM Reply	No worse than Kasparov vs. Deeper Blue Kasparov deliberately played some peculiar openings to get out of Deeper Blue's opening book, for the most part with success. (The main reason he lost that match was because he resigned the first game in a drawn position and played a "standard" opening in the 6th. :=) "Beware of bugs in the above code; I have only proved it correct, not tried it." -- Donald Knuth

Thane versus... - (inthane-chan) - (73) - Oct. 11, 2001, 01:25:13 PM EDT

Re: Thane versus... - (wharris2) - (37) - Oct. 11, 2001, 01:49:39 PM EDT

Re: Thane versus wharris2 - (inthane-chan) - (36) - Oct. 11, 2001, 02:05:14 PM EDT

Kibitz, kibitz, kibitz... - (ben_tilly) - Oct. 11, 2001, 04:17:18 PM EDT

Noncommital move - (wharris2) - (34) - Oct. 12, 2001, 07:44:02 PM EDT

Somehow, I might be in a spot of trouble... - (inthane-chan) - (29) - Oct. 15, 2001, 11:58:11 AM EDT

Re: Somehow, I might be in a spot of trouble... - (wharris2) - (28) - Oct. 15, 2001, 02:35:20 PM EDT

Re: Somehow, I might be in a spot of trouble... - (inthane-chan) - (27) - Oct. 17, 2001, 12:21:58 PM EDT

Re: Somehow, I might be in a spot of trouble... - (wharris2) - (26) - Oct. 17, 2001, 12:27:04 PM EDT

Blech - (inthane-chan) - (25) - Oct. 30, 2001, 12:41:42 PM EST

Move 5 - (wharris2) - (24) - Oct. 30, 2001, 01:12:23 PM EST

Re: Move 5 - (inthane-chan) - (23) - Nov. 1, 2001, 01:46:28 PM EST

Re: Move 5 - (wharris2) - (22) - Nov. 2, 2001, 11:39:10 PM EST

Move 7 - (inthane-chan) - (21) - Nov. 5, 2001, 04:49:56 PM EST

Re: Move 7 - (wharris2) - (20) - Nov. 7, 2001, 08:53:53 AM EST

Move 8 - (inthane-chan) - (19) - Nov. 7, 2001, 11:45:26 AM EST

Re: Move 8 - (wharris2) - (18) - Nov. 8, 2001, 11:57:43 AM EST

Move 9 - (inthane-chan) - (17) - Nov. 8, 2001, 12:16:13 PM EST

Re: Move 9 (and a minor dang) - (wharris2) - (16) - Nov. 8, 2001, 08:24:59 PM EST

Move 10 - (inthane-chan) - (15) - Nov. 9, 2001, 11:29:01 AM EST

Re: Move 10 - (wharris2) - (14) - Nov. 10, 2001, 01:41:43 AM EST

Move 11 - (inthane-chan) - (13) - Nov. 12, 2001, 12:30:37 PM EST

Move 11b - (wharris2) - (12) - Nov. 12, 2001, 08:47:32 PM EST

Move 12 - (inthane-chan) - (11) - Nov. 13, 2001, 11:17:09 AM EST

Re: Move 12 - (wharris2) - (10) - Nov. 14, 2001, 08:39:22 PM EST

Move 13 - (inthane-chan) - (9) - Nov. 15, 2001, 01:29:15 PM EST

Re: Move 13 (hook, line, sinker) - (wharris2) - (8) - Nov. 15, 2001, 08:31:56 PM EST

Move 14 (I don't get it.) - (inthane-chan) - (7) - Nov. 16, 2001, 11:44:36 AM EST

Re: Move 14 (Nothing super-secret) - (wharris2) - (6) - Nov. 16, 2001, 10:17:12 PM EST

Move 15 - (inthane-chan) - (5) - Nov. 19, 2001, 01:21:05 PM EST

Re: Move 15 - (wharris2) - (4) - Nov. 19, 2001, 08:30:12 PM EST

Move 16 - (inthane-chan) - (3) - Nov. 20, 2001, 12:02:32 PM EST

Re: Move 16 - (wharris2) - (2) - Nov. 20, 2001, 09:46:37 PM EST

Move 17: More from the book of "Duh!" - (inthane-chan) - (1) - Nov. 21, 2001, 11:31:24 AM EST

Re: Move 17: More from the book of "Duh!" - (wharris2) - Nov. 22, 2001, 08:33:44 AM EST

!?!? LOL--We need an impartial commentator :D -NT - (tseliot) - (3) - Oct. 15, 2001, 01:19:05 PM EDT

It has been played by better than wharris - (ben_tilly) - (2) - Oct. 15, 2001, 02:41:28 PM EDT

But I'm sure it's been played by far worse, too... ^_^' -NT - (inthane-chan) - Oct. 17, 2001, 12:31:14 PM EDT

No worse than Kasparov vs. Deeper Blue - (wharris2) - Oct. 17, 2001, 12:40:26 PM EDT

Thane versus... THE WORLD! - (tseliot) - (34) - Oct. 11, 2001, 04:40:01 PM EDT

Re: Thane versus... THE WORLD! - (inthane-chan) - (33) - Oct. 11, 2001, 05:18:16 PM EDT

Well, DUH! - (tseliot) - (32) - Oct. 11, 2001, 07:07:26 PM EDT

Take off - (pwhysall) - Oct. 11, 2001, 07:08:31 PM EDT

lol - (inthane-chan) - (30) - Oct. 12, 2001, 11:43:18 AM EDT

Ah, Tarrasch... - (tseliot) - (29) - Oct. 12, 2001, 12:15:26 PM EDT

Chiding - (wharris2) - (1) - Oct. 12, 2001, 07:46:00 PM EDT

Nah. Not after the comment about multiply branching games :) -NT - (tseliot) - Oct. 15, 2001, 01:20:15 PM EDT

On second thought - (wharris2) - Oct. 12, 2001, 07:46:52 PM EDT

Hope I remember this... - (inthane-chan) - (25) - Oct. 15, 2001, 11:53:24 AM EDT

Remember...? Been a while? - (tseliot) - (24) - Oct. 15, 2001, 01:39:30 PM EDT

Re: Remember...? Been a while? - (inthane-chan) - (23) - Oct. 17, 2001, 12:29:48 PM EDT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: - (tseliot) - (22) - Oct. 17, 2001, 05:22:30 PM EDT

Foobie - (inthane-chan) - (21) - Oct. 30, 2001, 12:36:31 PM EST

Slash and burn - (tseliot) - (20) - Oct. 30, 2001, 04:53:51 PM EST

I know exactly what you mean. - (inthane-chan) - (19) - Nov. 1, 2001, 01:42:57 PM EST

Or is that "burn, baby, burn"? - (tseliot) - (18) - Nov. 1, 2001, 02:36:03 PM EST

Disco Inferno! - (inthane-chan) - (17) - Nov. 5, 2001, 04:47:46 PM EST

Door's open, c'mon in! - (tseliot) - (16) - Nov. 5, 2001, 06:53:28 PM EST

"No I can't go out to play..." - (inthane-chan) - (15) - Nov. 6, 2001, 12:16:34 PM EST

Yeah that is odd, puttin all your defense on White like that - (tseliot) - (14) - Nov. 6, 2001, 05:49:10 PM EST

Guess I wasn't clear enough. - (inthane-chan) - (13) - Nov. 7, 2001, 11:42:21 AM EST

Yer makin me do things I dont want to do :( - (tseliot) - (12) - Nov. 7, 2001, 04:17:16 PM EST

No, really? - (inthane-chan) - (11) - Nov. 7, 2001, 05:31:45 PM EST

I got impatient, it seems. Hard to do this at work. :) - (tseliot) - (10) - Nov. 7, 2001, 07:46:37 PM EST

I know, I know. - (inthane-chan) - (9) - Nov. 7, 2001, 08:05:18 PM EST

You'll like this one - (tseliot) - (8) - Nov. 8, 2001, 02:59:51 PM EST

Two branches of play. - (inthane-chan) - Nov. 8, 2001, 04:46:11 PM EST

Secondary branch - (inthane-chan) - Nov. 8, 2001, 04:46:53 PM EST

Sorry, thane. Long cpl of days. I'll come back in a day or 2 -NT - (tseliot) - (5) - Nov. 13, 2001, 07:50:18 PM EST

No probs. - (inthane-chan) - (4) - Nov. 14, 2001, 11:54:42 AM EST

Re: No probs. - (wharris2) - Nov. 14, 2001, 08:42:50 PM EST

Gonna hafta concede. - (tseliot) - (2) - Nov. 21, 2001, 01:51:59 PM EST

Heh. - (inthane-chan) - (1) - Nov. 21, 2001, 01:57:06 PM EST

Region - (tseliot) - Nov. 21, 2001, 02:01:11 PM EST

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