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Post #12,467

by Andrew Grygus

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10/9/01 3:28:11 PM

No.

The system is working much better for the rich than the poor. They should support the system in a proportional manner. The pain level for paying taxes should be uniform from top to bottom.

10% on top of the Yugo is a heck of a lot more painful for the family with a $30,000 income than 10% on top of the Beamer for an exec pulling in $6,000,000 per year who's paying for it with pocket change.

No a national sales tax is a highly regressive tax and is not an acceptable alternative.

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Post #12,473

by Fearless Freep

10/9/01 3:51:09 PM

Impossible...

The pain level for paying taxes should be uniform from top to bottom.

...because everyone has different pain thresholds

$45K a year for a single mom with four kids and no health care is a *lot* different than $45K a year for a family with one working spouse, one childcare spouse and a job with health care. Same income, but the impact of a %10 income tax is quite a bit different

I make *about* the same as I did several years ago. but back then I had one vehicle and I telecommuted. Now I live in a differentcity than I work; so I need to maintian two vehicles (including insurance) and I spend close to $200 a month on gas. My income has not changed, my pain threshold has changed. My income is also artificially lowererd because I spent 4 months unemployed a few years back and ran up very high credit debts paying mortgage and utilities on credit. I'm still paying those off. So my 'income' in terms of what I can actually use is lower than my 'income' in terms of a paycheck

That's where such plans are doomed to failure. As soon as you start playing games with 'everyone should have the same pain' then it becomes a nightmare of trying to equalize everyone's situation fairly, and the bereaucracy to do that becomes unbearbly heavy

Jay O'Connor

"Going places unmapped
to do things unplanned
to people unsuspecting"

Let's hype the Internet sales tax revenue loss some more - (wharris2) - (56) - Oct. 8, 2001, 10:56:45 PM EDT

Sales Tax - (jbrabeck) - (55) - Oct. 9, 2001, 08:37:56 AM EDT

Which is why it's time to scrap the sales tax. - (inthane-chan) - (54) - Oct. 9, 2001, 12:31:17 PM EDT

Acceptable if . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (53) - Oct. 9, 2001, 12:40:27 PM EDT

Yeah, that's what I was suggesting. - (inthane-chan) - (52) - Oct. 9, 2001, 12:49:35 PM EDT

Flat tax, negative income tax - (wharris2) - (51) - Oct. 9, 2001, 02:06:23 PM EDT

How about scrap income tax altogether - (Fearless Freep) - (50) - Oct. 9, 2001, 02:16:43 PM EDT

Re: How about scrap income tax altogether - (wharris2) - (8) - Oct. 9, 2001, 02:46:01 PM EDT

Re: How about scrap income tax altogether - (Fearless Freep) - (7) - Oct. 9, 2001, 02:50:27 PM EDT

Doesn't matter - (wharris2) - (4) - Oct. 9, 2001, 03:03:08 PM EDT

Yeah... - (Fearless Freep) - (3) - Oct. 9, 2001, 03:13:40 PM EDT

Depends on how you look at the numbers... - (Another Scott) - (1) - Oct. 9, 2001, 04:07:30 PM EDT

Re: Depends on how you look at the numbers... - (Fearless Freep) - Oct. 9, 2001, 04:14:45 PM EDT

Re: Yeah... - (wharris2) - Oct. 9, 2001, 05:59:25 PM EDT

No. - (Andrew Grygus) - (1) - Oct. 9, 2001, 03:28:11 PM EDT

Impossible... - (Fearless Freep) - Oct. 9, 2001, 03:51:09 PM EDT

The only way I'd go for this... - (inthane-chan) - (40) - Oct. 9, 2001, 03:43:22 PM EDT

Umm... - (Fearless Freep) - (1) - Oct. 9, 2001, 03:48:48 PM EDT

Well then... - (inthane-chan) - Oct. 9, 2001, 04:03:41 PM EDT

Don't get yourself in debt... - (admin) - (32) - Oct. 9, 2001, 03:57:33 PM EDT

Yeah, I know there's more to it than that... - (inthane-chan) - (18) - Oct. 9, 2001, 04:01:45 PM EDT

Which net? - (Fearless Freep) - (17) - Oct. 9, 2001, 04:09:55 PM EDT

Doesn't work for everybody. - (inthane-chan) - (16) - Oct. 10, 2001, 12:25:05 PM EDT

Re: Doesn't work for everybody. - (Fearless Freep) - (15) - Oct. 10, 2001, 01:08:05 PM EDT

So how would you fix it? -NT - (inthane-chan) - (14) - Oct. 10, 2001, 01:11:36 PM EDT

I wouldn't - (Fearless Freep) - (12) - Oct. 10, 2001, 01:29:05 PM EDT

You're only looking at the bad. - (addison) - (2) - Oct. 10, 2001, 02:32:58 PM EDT

Re: You're only looking at the bad. - (Fearless Freep) - (1) - Oct. 10, 2001, 02:57:12 PM EDT

Re: You're only looking at the bad. - (addison) - Oct. 10, 2001, 04:03:26 PM EDT

And life was better a hundred years ago? - (ben_tilly) - Oct. 10, 2001, 06:38:20 PM EDT

Wow, how *impressively* wrong you can be! - (CRConrad) - (7) - Oct. 11, 2001, 05:09:48 PM EDT

Jerico. - (a6l6e6x) - Oct. 11, 2001, 10:29:07 PM EDT

Cackle.. glorp - (Ashton) - (5) - Oct. 12, 2001, 06:34:42 PM EDT

Belladonna? Uhm... Thanks - I think! :-) -NT - (CRConrad) - (4) - Oct. 14, 2001, 11:58:03 AM EDT

belladona dilates the pupils (eye-opener) -NT - (boxley) - (3) - Oct. 14, 2001, 07:57:15 PM EDT

3 ears and a tail.. - (Ashton) - Oct. 15, 2001, 02:50:16 AM EDT

There's such a thing as being too open-eyed. - (marlowe) - (1) - Oct. 17, 2001, 01:30:42 PM EDT

Actually, I was thinking (and "thank?"ing Ashton for)... - (CRConrad) - Oct. 18, 2001, 07:36:21 AM EDT

Clarification - (Fearless Freep) - Oct. 10, 2001, 01:31:29 PM EDT

Yup - (Fearless Freep) - (2) - Oct. 9, 2001, 04:05:41 PM EDT

Been there - (tuberculosis) - Aug. 21, 2007, 05:43:29 AM EDT

Escrow companies for contractors. - (inthane-chan) - Oct. 10, 2001, 12:15:45 PM EDT

Re: Don't get yourself in debt... - (jbrabeck) - (9) - Oct. 10, 2001, 03:14:56 PM EDT

Sorry To Hear That - (deSitter) - (8) - Oct. 11, 2001, 11:44:49 AM EDT

Very Important. - (imric) - (7) - Oct. 11, 2001, 10:07:24 PM EDT

Thanks - we finally have a diagnosis - (jbrabeck) - (6) - Oct. 12, 2001, 09:54:42 AM EDT

I'm with you, buddy - (jb4) - (2) - Oct. 12, 2001, 10:08:23 AM EDT

Please email me direct. - (jbrabeck) - (1) - Oct. 12, 2001, 01:24:27 PM EDT

10-4...write you this weekend - (jb4) - Oct. 12, 2001, 01:29:00 PM EDT

I will. -NT - (imric) - Oct. 12, 2001, 10:11:25 AM EDT

One more... - (inthane-chan) - Oct. 12, 2001, 12:05:11 PM EDT

You have my support - (Silverlock) - Oct. 12, 2001, 12:09:03 PM EDT

Re: The only way I'd go for this... - (addison) - (4) - Oct. 9, 2001, 04:40:00 PM EDT

So if you SELL a stock... - (jb4) - (3) - Oct. 10, 2001, 09:10:27 AM EDT

I don't think so. - (addison) - (2) - Oct. 10, 2001, 10:47:23 AM EDT

Sales tax on used cars - (Silverlock) - (1) - Oct. 10, 2001, 10:53:00 AM EDT

Re: Sales tax on used cars - (addison) - Oct. 10, 2001, 11:16:03 AM EDT

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