Post #123,734
11/2/03 6:54:30 PM
11/2/03 11:18:42 PM
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Database was...
MySQL, initially. \r\n\r\n Later replaced with Oracle. Which Rob dissed thoroughly. Be interested to know Perrin's take on that -- better or worse or just different? Scuttlebut was that Oracle didn't like the fact that one of the top ten ecommerce sites wasn't running O. \r\n\r\n Perrin wouldn't have been the only person to call it that either, regarding the other comment. OS/Z was in the process of shedding most of the original code as well. Definitely not built for collaborative development, nor was the initial developer minded to cooperate. \r\n\r\n Edits: name fix --\r\n
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What part of "gestalt" don't you understand?\r\n
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Edited by kmself
Nov. 2, 2003, 11:18:42 PM EST
Database was...
MySQL, initially.
Later replaced with Oracle. Which Rob dissed thoroughly. Be interested to know Pippin's take on that -- better or worse or just different? Scuttlebut was that Oracle didn't like the fact that one of the top ten ecommerce sites wasn't running O.
Pippin wouldn't have been the only person to call it that either, regarding the other comment. OS/Z was in the process of shedding most of the original code as well. Definitely not built for collaborative development, nor was the initial developer minded to cooperate. --
Karsten M. Self [link|mailto:kmself@ix.netcom.com|kmself@ix.netcom.com]
[link|http://kmself.home.netcom.com/|http://kmself.home.netcom.com/]
What part of "gestalt" don't you understand?
[link|http://twiki.iwethey.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/|TWikIWETHEY] -- an experiment in collective intelligence. Stupidity. Whatever.
Keep software free. Oppose the CBDTPA. Kill S.2048 dead.
[link|http://www.eff.org/alerts/20020322_eff_cbdtpa_alert.html|http://www.eff.org/alerts/20020322_eff_cbdtpa_alert.html]
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Post #123,745
11/2/03 9:02:37 PM
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Um, you have his name way wrong
Perrin. Not Pippin.
You could always email him at perrin@elem.com and ask. Or I could ask when I see him next. (I think that he is coming out in a month or so.)
But as for Oracle vs MySQL, some better people to ask are [link|/forums/render/user?username=broomberg|broomberg], [link|/forums/render/user?username=slugbug|slugbug] and the like. Perrin was mainly concerned with the website/programming side. He isn't a DBA, nor does he pretend to be one, so he probably doesn't have strong opinions on that.
Cheers,
Ben
"good ideas and bad code build communities, the other three combinations do not"
- [link|http://archives.real-time.com/pipermail/cocoon-devel/2000-October/003023.html|Stefano Mazzocchi]
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Post #123,760
11/2/03 11:26:51 PM
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Wups, fixed. DB...
MySQL was principally "just a data store". There was relatively little reliance on higher-end database functions, and performance was at a premium. The claim was also that transactional integrity was provided through OM itself. \r\n\r\n Then again, I keep my salt-sack open when considering Rob's dictums. I've caught him at several times at really major fibs. E.g.: Linux doesn't do networking at runlevel zero, Molar volume is a (practically) constant number of molecules of gas at constant T & P. Given his background -- graduate biology w/ significant chemistry, and years of Linux programming and admin -- he really should have known these. Worst, he was insistant on being wrong. --\r\n
Karsten M. Self [link|mailto:kmself@ix.netcom.com|kmself@ix.netcom.com]\r\n
[link|http://kmself.home.netcom.com/|http://kmself.home.netcom.com/]\r\n
What part of "gestalt" don't you understand?\r\n
[link|http://twiki.iwethey.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/|TWikIWETHEY] -- an experiment in collective intelligence. Stupidity. Whatever.\r\n
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Keep software free. Oppose the CBDTPA. Kill S.2048 dead.\r\n[link|http://www.eff.org/alerts/20020322_eff_cbdtpa_alert.html|http://www.eff.org/alerts/20020322_eff_cbdtpa_alert.html]\r\n
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Post #123,800
11/3/03 9:25:57 AM
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i.e, Jordan, not Tolkien. But, hey, it's easy...
...to get your Fantasy writers mixed up, if you're not too much into that kind of stuff. :-)
[Note for the uninitiated: Perrin is one of the main characters in Robert Jordan's "Wheel of Time" series, whereas Pippin, IIRC, is one of the hobbits in "the Ring".]
[link|mailto:MyUserId@MyISP.CountryCode|Christian R. Conrad]
(I live in Finland, and my e-mail in-box is at the Saunalahti company.)
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Post #123,818
11/3/03 10:44:40 AM
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True, but Perrin is his real name
"good ideas and bad code build communities, the other three combinations do not"
- [link|http://archives.real-time.com/pipermail/cocoon-devel/2000-October/003023.html|Stefano Mazzocchi]
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Post #123,992
11/4/03 3:03:38 AM
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Really? Kewl! First or last?
And no, even if it were his given name, I'm not implying he'd have to be named for the character in Jordan's novels -- if nothing else, he'd have to be pretty precocious, as the first in the series appeared in (IIRC) 1989, and the series didn't reach greater fame until around the second or third book, a bit into the '90s.
[link|mailto:MyUserId@MyISP.CountryCode|Christian R. Conrad]
(I live in Finland, and my e-mail in-box is at the Saunalahti company.)
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Post #124,020
11/4/03 9:58:36 AM
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First
"good ideas and bad code build communities, the other three combinations do not"
- [link|http://archives.real-time.com/pipermail/cocoon-devel/2000-October/003023.html|Stefano Mazzocchi]
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