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Post #121,211
by Andrew Grygus
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10/14/03 5:10:04 PM
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New Norton Antivirus . .
. . puts its hooks way too deep into the system for my comfort. When I get a machine in for weird problems the very first thing I do is remove Norton anything to keep it from screwing with me. I don't reinstall it either, I tell the client s/he can reinstall it if s/he wants to.

A fun trick with Norton Antivirus: clone a hard disk with Norton AV installed to a different size drive (install Windows on the new, boot on the old and xcopy everything. Boot to DOS and copy the registries to make sure). About 4 days later, Norton AV will wake up, see the boot and partition info is different, and restore the old versions. Cool - no disk.

Took an hour in surgery to bring the disk back the first time that happened to me. It isn't going to happen again.
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Post #121,229
by pwhysall
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10/14/03 6:26:38 PM
10/14/03 6:27:48 PM
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New They all do that.
We've got McAfee Active Virus Defense (blurgh, you Americans and your butchering of my language), comprising VirusScan Enterprise 7.0, Groupshield, ePO, etc., and that installs a couple of filesystem-level drivers (specifically I'm thinking of NAIFSREC.SYS). It's the only way you can have on-access scanning without killing the performance of the machine.

Sophos and whatever Kaspersky Labs product is called do something similar.

Norton Antivirus home edition is a horrible piece of cack. The corporate version is much more reasonable. I'm not particularly enamoured of the whole Live* thing, though. The engine is more-or-less the same, but the corporate edition is clearly aimed at grownups, whereas the home version (Norton Antivirus 2003?) is clearly aimed at the under-10s market segment.

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Post #121,232
by Andrew Grygus
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10/14/03 6:42:21 PM
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New Well, I use Command Antivirus . .
. . which I've found far easier to handle than the big names, and it hasn't done anything weird on me yet. It's not that well known (which may be good since some worms now attack the big names) but I notice a number of universities use it.
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Post #121,415
by static
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10/16/03 8:17:32 AM
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New Norton got market share by being persistent.
I remember version 1. It was horrible. In professional reviews, the only product that was consistently worse than it was the anti-virus that can with DOS 6. But a year later and signature update files were regular on FIDOnet BBSs. Persistence.

Wade.

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Is it enough to breathe
Somebody rip my heart out
And leave me here to bleed
 
Is it enough to die
Somebody save my life
I'd rather be Anything but Ordinary
Please

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     Why oh why did I download Norton Antivirus? - (Meerkat) - (21) - Oct. 10, 2003, 04:29:51 AM EDT
         Re: Why oh why did I download Norton Antivirus? - (deSitter) - (2) - Oct. 10, 2003, 04:34:48 AM EDT
             Hmm.. NAV, or Debian (or both!)? :-) WRT NAV, lesson learnt. -NT - (Meerkat) - Oct. 10, 2003, 04:37:52 AM EDT
             love your reply - (lincoln) - Oct. 10, 2003, 02:00:56 PM EDT
         Re: Why oh why did I download Norton Antivirus? - (kmself) - (6) - Oct. 10, 2003, 07:29:47 AM EDT
             It was the old Straw + Camel's Back = Overload Error thing. - (Meerkat) - (4) - Oct. 10, 2003, 08:23:06 AM EDT
                 Re: It was the old Straw + Camel's Back = Overload Error thi - (kmself) - (3) - Oct. 10, 2003, 08:39:17 AM EDT
                     Maybe it's an Australian peculiarity, - (Meerkat) - (2) - Oct. 10, 2003, 06:55:13 PM EDT
                         Re: Maybe it's an Australian peculiarity, - (kmself) - (1) - Oct. 10, 2003, 09:44:46 PM EDT
                             Maybe *I'm* an Australian peculiarity :) - (Meerkat) - Oct. 11, 2003, 10:46:56 AM EDT
             Body snatching - (deSitter) - Oct. 10, 2003, 07:30:14 PM EDT
         Try Alternatives - (orion) - (6) - Oct. 13, 2003, 06:43:40 PM EDT
             Err, he did - (pwhysall) - (5) - Oct. 14, 2003, 02:29:04 AM EDT
                 At the very least - (orion) - (4) - Oct. 14, 2003, 03:59:14 PM EDT
                     Life would have to be very dull... - (pwhysall) - Oct. 14, 2003, 06:21:55 PM EDT
                     If Windows goes wierd, it's usually better to re-install. - (static) - (2) - Oct. 16, 2003, 08:20:06 AM EDT
                         Let me finish your sentence: ... a real operating system :) -NT - (Meerkat) - Oct. 16, 2003, 08:25:33 AM EDT
                         The three R's, RRR - (orion) - Oct. 16, 2003, 09:39:30 AM EDT
         Norton Antivirus . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (3) - Oct. 14, 2003, 05:10:04 PM EDT
             They all do that. - (pwhysall) - (1) - Oct. 14, 2003, 06:27:48 PM EDT
                 Well, I use Command Antivirus . . - (Andrew Grygus) - Oct. 14, 2003, 06:42:21 PM EDT
             Norton got market share by being persistent. - (static) - Oct. 16, 2003, 08:17:32 AM EDT

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