Funny - embedded is lower here.

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Post #119,485

by tuberculosis

9/29/03 10:08:41 PM

Funny - embedded is lower here.

The embedded folks here (Denver) get a little less than the enterprise guys (which seems counter-intuitive to me as well). Heck, I'd love to switch to something a little more challenging. The highest pay is going to so-called J2EE "architects". I have no idea why. (Interesting stat - my Seaside implementation of a reference web app came in at 1/6 the size in terms of source code size and 1/3 the number of classes - seems inefficiency pays big).

Prices are similar - I'm struggling to hold the line on contract W2 at $50/hour. I'm seeing embedded going from $35-$45 W2 around here. Its not worth doing 1099 through the local cannibals - they might give you $3-6 more per hour tops.

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Post #119,533

by jb4

9/30/03 9:46:40 AM

Of course inefficiency pays

If you have to slog through 6 times the size of the pile, you can charge 6 times the number of hours!

jb4
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Re: iwethey.employed-- - (Nightowl) - Sept. 26, 2003, 01:17:27 PM EDT

Thanks, folks! - (jb4) - Sept. 26, 2003, 04:11:45 PM EDT

:( Ugly times all over this continent. -NT - (Ashton) - Sept. 26, 2003, 06:27:31 PM EDT

Good luck in the hunt, Jay! -NT - (a6l6e6x) - Sept. 26, 2003, 09:44:20 PM EDT

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Where is your resume? -NT - (broomberg) - (2) - Sept. 26, 2003, 10:35:51 PM EDT

Re: Where is your resume? - (jb4) - (1) - Sept. 28, 2003, 08:25:43 PM EDT

Send it - (broomberg) - Sept. 28, 2003, 10:04:17 PM EDT

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sigh. - (cforde) - (2) - Sept. 28, 2003, 02:08:16 AM EDT

If it was a fortune cookie, it would have... - (kmself) - Sept. 28, 2003, 03:46:21 AM EDT

Carl- - (jb4) - Sept. 28, 2003, 08:27:05 PM EDT

Bummer - (tuberculosis) - (13) - Sept. 29, 2003, 01:53:13 PM EDT

Jay is (or was) near Chicago. -NT - (a6l6e6x) - Sept. 29, 2003, 03:47:47 PM EDT

Where, indeed! - (jb4) - (11) - Sept. 29, 2003, 07:04:38 PM EDT

!!! - (deSitter) - (7) - Sept. 29, 2003, 07:13:55 PM EDT

Wow! - (jb4) - (1) - Sept. 29, 2003, 07:27:21 PM EDT

Re: Wow! - (deSitter) - Sept. 29, 2003, 07:33:57 PM EDT

Don't forget the distinction between W2 and 1099 pay. - (a6l6e6x) - (4) - Sept. 29, 2003, 09:31:27 PM EDT

Remind me how to calculate that - (tuberculosis) - (3) - Sept. 30, 2003, 07:48:41 PM EDT

Here's an IRS link that may help. - (a6l6e6x) - Sept. 30, 2003, 09:45:45 PM EDT

Rule of thumb: 30-40% - (kmself) - Oct. 1, 2003, 12:04:20 AM EDT

That's a deal! - (jb4) - Oct. 1, 2003, 05:28:31 PM EDT

Seriously deep - (jake123) - Sept. 29, 2003, 07:57:35 PM EDT

Funny - embedded is lower here. - (tuberculosis) - (1) - Sept. 29, 2003, 10:08:41 PM EDT

Of course inefficiency pays - (jb4) - Sept. 30, 2003, 09:46:40 AM EDT

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