Post #117,597
9/12/03 8:14:14 AM
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In software, Boulder beats Austin
Austin prides itself as a software capital, but it can't hold a candle to Boulder, Colo., according to a new survey by an industry association.
The Colorado city has five times as many software workers for its population as the national average. Austin, by contrast, has 2 1/2 times the national average.
[link|http://www.statesman.com/business/content/auto/epaper/editions/today/business_f31647f62610519310a1.html|link] Can somebody please get Austin (and texas in general) to finally shut the fuck up? They no longer have anything to brag about. lincoln
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Post #117,638
9/12/03 12:44:01 PM
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You mean, aside from being a wonderful city in general?
Come on, Brian. Having been to both places (lived in Austin for 4 years (1994-1997), visited Boulder for Thanksgiving weekend in '94), they are both gorgeous. Very similar, actually. Both college towns (and both colleges are very good schools (and they're both Big XII schools, no less!)) Austin's got the government there that Boulder lacks (point, Boulder.) Both have beautiful scenery in and around the town -- Austin has the Hill Country, and Boulder has the Rockies.
But, since you live there and I used to, you and I both know that Texa(n)s will never STFU about how great their home is. It's a fact of life. Accept it and move on.
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Post #117,649
9/12/03 3:11:34 PM
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Accept what?
you and I both know that Texa(n)s will never STFU about how great their home is. It's a fact of life. Accept it and move on.
Accept the fact that the average Texan walks around with a 500 pound chip on their shoulder about how "great" they are due to the fact that their mother gave birth to them in that state? Give me a break!!! Austin is a nice town, I'll grant you that, but the arrogance of the native born Texans is unmatched by residents of any other state. What makes a "Texan" so much better than a resident of any other state anyway? When a Texan talks, you could enjoy the constant breeze - IF it wasn't all hot air. lincoln
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Post #117,659
9/12/03 4:07:22 PM
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EXACTAMUNDO
Do you really expect to fix anything here?
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Post #117,831
9/15/03 8:05:48 AM
9/15/03 8:08:13 AM
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I'd rather live in Naperville
It's a far BETTER city with far BETTER people.
Austin's problems could be easily fixed by a couple of nuclear warheads...
I also noticed how you didn't provide any substantiation to your claim as to WHY Austin/Texas is so great. Where's the foundation for your opinion?
lincoln
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Edited by lincoln
Sept. 15, 2003, 08:08:13 AM EDT
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Post #117,839
9/15/03 10:09:10 AM
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Re: I'd rather live in Naperville
It's a far BETTER city with far BETTER people. I'm not disputing that. I also noticed how you didn't provide any substantiation to your claim as to WHY Austin/Texas is so great. Where's the foundation for your opinion? Look. I happen to like the city of Austin. I have fond memories of the place, it's beautiful, and if I absolutely had to live in Texas, it would be in Austin. There's not enough money in the world to make me want to live in Houston, DFW, or just about anywhere else other than the Hill Country. I don't need to substantiate those opinions (which are mine and mine alone) to you or anyone else. I never claimed that Texans walking around with your 500 pound chip on their shoulders was the right way to do things. I merely stated that it's a fact of life. You and I arguing about it here ain't gonna change jack schitt. This is my last reply along this thread. -YendorMike
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Post #117,899
9/15/03 9:45:26 PM
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What a sad answer
I never claimed that Texans walking around with your 500 pound chip on their shoulders was the right way to do things. I merely stated that it's a fact of life.
Yes, Texans do walk around with a chip on their shoulders, believing that they're better than other people due to the luck of the draw for their birth location. They have no valid reason(s) for this belief. What is it that you claim to be "a fact of life": that they walk around with a chip on their shoulder or the reason that they put the chip on their shoulder in the first place? Having visited Boulder, and having once lived in Austin for 4 years (which I no longer do), I find Boulder more visually appealing. I BELIEVE that the people of Boulder would be better to live among. At least when I state my opinion, I label it as such. lincoln
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Post #117,900
9/15/03 9:47:37 PM
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Lighten up, Francis.
There's a big misunderstanding going on here, and I don't think it's on Mike's part...
Regards,
-scott anderson
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Post #117,918
9/16/03 8:12:58 AM
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Clarify your post, please
Since I'm not following your train of thought. What are you implying?
lincoln
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Post #117,920
9/16/03 8:21:08 AM
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Re: Clarify your post, please
I'm implying that you are misunderstanding what Mike is saying. Quit attacking him for five minutes and read for comprehension instead.
Regards,
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Post #117,978
9/16/03 9:41:47 PM
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I don't comprehend vagueness
which his post contained, in my opinion. And since he refuses to clarify it himself, I say we'll never know what he really meant.
I think that you're reading too much into my post by saying that I'm "attacking" him; if that's what you think, then you didn't comprehend properly what I actually wrote.
Check my history - I have yet to even get into a heated discussion with ANYBODY in this site or its predecessor, let alone "attack" anyone.
lincoln
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Post #117,769
9/14/03 5:38:05 AM
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Re: You mean, aside from being a wonderful city in general?
Boulder was a town of racist hypocrites who tortured the black athletes on the U of Co. football team. I hated that place like no other I've visited.
If you want to REALLY despise liberals, spend a week in Boulder.
-drl
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Post #117,795
9/14/03 7:06:02 PM
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Intolerance is androgynous, Gaussian and needs no sub-labels
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Post #117,647
9/12/03 2:22:58 PM
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Was at a dinner yesterday
Being unemployed - I'm spending time attending every front range industry association/VC fundraising thing I can get to. That stat - that the front range has more software developers per-capita than any place else was thrown out. Which prompted one wag to retort that we must also have the highest unemployment.
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Post #117,753
9/14/03 12:01:45 AM
9/14/03 12:02:25 AM
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I'm a Native Texan....
And even I would rather be living in Boulder than Austin...
The Rockies (not the baseball team), the weather, just awesome!
When I worked for American Airlines/SABRE, before kids, we would travel to the Denver area 3-4-5 times each summer. When it was 105 in Dallas/Ft. Worth, we would be waking up to freezing temps in the morning, and afternoons at 65 degrees, up near Copper Mountain, Frisco, Breckenridge, and we would even "day trip" over to Vail and Aspen.
It's cheaper to live in Austin. Austin has large chip manufacturing, Dell, IBM, and a number of chip companies with major sites there. The VC mood seems to be good (or at least until 2001) with start-ups.
Boulder has a HUGE IBM facility, but I don't know much more than that. The folks I spoke with in a Denver training class in 2002 worked at the IBM Boulder facility, and said that the cost of living was VERY EXPENSIVE.
So, if it were just about weather, I would definitely do the Boulder thing. But, when you factor in cost of living, the equation gets much more mirky.
Glen Austin
Edited by gdaustin
Sept. 14, 2003, 12:02:25 AM EDT
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Post #117,771
9/14/03 6:42:44 AM
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Re: I'm a Native Texan....
The IBM facility is in Longmont, which has as much in common with Boulder as Peking does with Sioux City.
-drl
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Post #117,937
9/16/03 10:39:25 AM
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Just a thought
I've often believed the "Texas attitude" was a response to the "You're from Texas, how the hell can you live there?!?!?!" attitude I see in people from other states. After hearing it enough you get to feeling "yeah, fuck you too asshole".
I see similar things about America when dealing with people from other countries - such as "You American's are so arrogant, you don't even learn other languages". They don't realize that lots of American's have learned other languages, but because we're not in a position to use them frequently enough that we've forgotten them by the time we can afford to travel to those other countries. I was talking to a guy from Germany who'd made a similiar comment and asked him how far he had to travel before he had to use a different language - just 3 hours. Another 3 hours to know a 3rd language. I told him that for me, it was 7 hours to get to Mexico were I'd need Spanish, but to get to Canada were I might need to use french was a multiple day journey - nothing something you're going to do for a short "weekend getaway". Until then, he never comprehended the size of the US and the affect of having a single language over such a vast area. Brad of Stardock had a similiar "size of the US" experience with visitors from Europe, they thought they could drive down to Disney World for the day - Brad's in Michigan...
That's all I'll say on this subject else the "fuck you too asshole" response will be coming out :-)
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Post #117,939
9/16/03 11:13:20 AM
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Size of the country
We've gotten that a lot up here too. It's neat when a European or SE Asian looks at the map of Canada and the distance from Toronto to Kingston, ask how long the drive is, and get told three hours... and then start casting their eye over Vancouver way.
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Post #117,969
9/16/03 6:40:29 PM
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Pithy reminder - thanks.
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Post #117,973
9/16/03 9:15:59 PM
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Size matters
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