And if he's found guilty of "knowing"?

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Post #114,218

8/18/03 5:55:09 PM

And if he's found guilty of "knowing"?

I'm sorry, it's become nearly impossible for me to try to figure out what is now a crime and/or un-American.

Reminds me of an old friend my Dad had in Soviet Russia. Did time in a Gulag - His crime? He was convicted of making the following statement:

"There is no freedom of speech in the Soviet Union."

How long do you suppose before we can get "convicted" of that?

bcnu,
Mikem

The soul and substance of what customarily ranks as patriotism is moral cowardice and always has been...We have thrown away the most valuable asset we had-- the individual's right to oppose both flag and country when he (just he, by himself) believed them to be in the wrong. We have thrown it away; and with it all that was really respectable about that grotesque and laughable word, Patriotism.

- Mark Twain, "Monarchical and Republican Patriotism"

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8/18/03 7:21:32 PM

Re: And if he's found guilty of "knowing"?

INAL, but I don't think "knowing" is a crime. One either has to do something or plan to do something.

In the 1930's in the Ukraine, my father was issued citation by the Party prohibiting him from speaking in public for essentially the same reason as your friend's dad's comment except that it was about collective farms. The citation was understood to be a delayed sentence to be sent to the Gulag. He did not wait around to be picked up and spent much of the 1930's as a fugitive. As you well know, some 60 million people, my father's uncles included, made one way trips to the Siberian Gulag.

Alex

"Don't let it end like this. Tell them I said something." -- last words of Pancho Villa (1877-1923)

What has been done to this man by the govt IS criminal - (boxley) - (9) - Aug. 12, 2003, 09:58:13 PM EDT

First, they came for the Communists, ... - (mmoffitt) - Aug. 18, 2003, 05:30:47 PM EDT

Agree with what you say. The process is fouled and... - (a6l6e6x) - (7) - Aug. 18, 2003, 05:35:58 PM EDT

I don't know this case, but ... - (mmoffitt) - (6) - Aug. 18, 2003, 05:38:07 PM EDT

It all depends on what crime he is found guilty of - (a6l6e6x) - (2) - Aug. 18, 2003, 05:52:18 PM EDT

And if he's found guilty of "knowing"? - (mmoffitt) - (1) - Aug. 18, 2003, 05:55:09 PM EDT

Re: And if he's found guilty of "knowing"? - (a6l6e6x) - Aug. 18, 2003, 07:21:32 PM EDT

no, you only kill him if the offence charged is penalized so - (boxley) - (2) - Aug. 19, 2003, 02:17:53 PM EDT

Heh, not a "short time pop" for him so far :-( -NT - (mmoffitt) - (1) - Aug. 21, 2003, 01:08:02 PM EDT

yup. punishment far greater than effective charge - (boxley) - Aug. 21, 2003, 10:51:37 PM EDT

She's just another ambitious slut from the prosecutor class.
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