Post #103,530
5/26/03 10:06:34 AM
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One person's opinion on recycling PCs
[link|http://www.statesman.com/opinion/content/auto/epaper/editions/sunday/editorial_3.html|reader's opinion] Computer companies should stop "trying to find ways to get people to pay money to get rid of their unusable equipment" (May 19 article, "Computer recycling effort slow to boot up"). Dell recently revealed that in six months, a whopping 250 computers were recycled through their program that requires consumers to pay to ship their obsolete machines. Most people won't pay $30 to recycle their obsolete desktop.
Companies should build the price of safe recycling and disposal into the computer's cost, as they already do in many European countries. It's a disgrace that Hewlett-Packard and Dell aren't providing Americans with equal treatment.
When the producers are responsible for the recycling and safe disposal of electronic waste, then their bottom lines will dictate designing for recycling with fewer toxins that are costly to properly dispose of and dangerous when tossed in landfills.
ROBIN SCHNEIDER Executive director Texas Campaign for the Environment Austin robin@texasenvironment.org
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Post #103,537
5/26/03 11:30:30 AM
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Oh, but they are recycled . .
. . and much of the material finds a new application as part of the "Asian Brown Cloud". Eventually this will solve our overseas outsorcing problem, since Asians will be too sick to work. See, it all works out in the end.
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Post #103,540
5/26/03 11:42:59 AM
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The H1B problems, they will be MORE prone...
to *WANT* to come here then.
See, you are not *SO* smart you Beer Swigging, Wine Taster you!
Oh course, we'd then have to some up with an alliterative reason we are being fired/let-go all the time.
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Post #103,543
5/26/03 11:52:52 AM
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Yes, but with their brains fried . .
. . from toxic waste and radiation, H1Bs would be suitable only for top corporate executive positions, and you know the suits wouldn't bring them in for that.
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Post #103,565
5/26/03 7:06:39 PM
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Did I hear an alliterative?
Rapscallious reasons resisting raunchy reprobates - ridiculing recycling - requires rapidly reconfiguring recent re-hires.
'Radicate 'em.
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Post #103,600
5/27/03 9:22:15 AM
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Ashton's always an awesome alliterator... and always apt!
John. Busy lad.
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Post #103,653
5/27/03 1:29:25 PM
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Blah, best boy brought brief brief.
But, bearing briefs, brings bollocks begetting borderline breaking bylaws.
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Post #103,696
5/27/03 5:31:58 PM
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Alliteration addicts automatically assimilate__[+ analysis]
asinine assignments; adulation assessment annuls asperity as.. 'asinine' assures abject aperiodicity and awfulness.
.. mere bagatelle, no?
(But I was dubbed such in early high school, by English teacher - for a sentence with merely 4,5? of such, though in that case - achingly chosen for aptness to an assignment.) 'Alliteration Addict A.' saith he {sigh} {foe} {fum}
ie I think that alliteration draws on one's "recognition vocabulary" to the max, especially that {ugh - algorithm} where associative memory operates on related sounds -- a quite different 'sort' than the usual random-like search for (better/felt = not-intellect then operating) synonyms, say? It's quite fascinating to (when you can) watch the simple mind running the sums, but it ain't no funnel-sort sorta automaton either. To me it illustrates the holographic, unanalyzable! and quintessentially analogue nature of 'all that memory', yet the simultaneity of the extra only-Boolean-'like' filters, which you can toss-in on-the-fly.
(Try writing a mere digital computer program that can do a mewling fraction of That !? Poorly.) Also -- such er mindless watching (watching. via. *What* !?): is a first step to noticing directly, personally thus Truly: how utterly mechanical IS most of our vaunted 'mentation'. [Manifesto] Then: you feel that momentary humility humiliation which is all we ever! actually! learn-from, IMhO. [/Manifesto]
And it is a universal factoid that - our recognition vocab. is always larger than our speaking one; usually Much larger.. I mean, you know.. uh, what we allus Say ummm instead o' sorta cogent mellifluous prose - like them Real writer-type virtuosi -?- who eschew the superfluous automagically .. ..
Memory! boon/curse - where all the old stuff just generates.. on autopilot, in 'low-mind' - those infinite imaginations about future stuff, and where mostly we dwell; exactly as the Sage ever and always told us: we rarely experience fucking-*Now* (er, even while umm *Then*)
Ashton doomed to semi-senescent sentience, solipsism, senility .. Trans-send-ence; Unless - -
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Post #103,756
5/28/03 7:26:35 AM
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Contrariwise, cluey contributor can comment concisely.
I know I'm going to regret that. But I couldn't resist... :^)
Wade.
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Post #103,549
5/26/03 3:10:18 PM
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Recycling PCs
usually the poor schools and churches will take them to use them as they don't have a lot of money. They will take them for free if they need them. Also I once had a guy who was shipping out old PCs to the Honduras and other countries. He wanted old 386 and 486 and above computers. So it is a matter of finding the right place our company that will take them for free.
Also once a year a recycling company takes used monitors etc in our neighborhood. I forgot when, but I have some older equipment that doesn't work that they can have.
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Post #103,615
5/27/03 11:26:09 AM
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Hand me downs just postpone the problem
Eventually, the computer has to be destroyed. I wonder, how do computers compare to cars wrt costs of disposal?
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Post #103,700
5/27/03 5:47:11 PM
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Agreed; important: factoid updated annually, for All to see
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