As explanations go this is as good as any ...

Post #96,599 by dmarker 4/14/03 10:03:27 PM Reply	As explanations go this is as good as any ... There sure has to be some good reasons why. I had been wondering all along if the US was using the weapons inspections period to attempt to make such deals with Iraqi military high-ups. These guys must have been well aware (after gulf-1) that when US came in there was no real hope of winning. Also, the allies were attacking Iraqi air defenses almost continually over the period between gulf-1 & 2. China had contractors in Iraq working on implementing underground fibre comms & there was also speculation that China may have been working with Iraq to implement the same 'invisible' radar system purportedly used by the Serbs (and that the US took out when they 'accidentaly' bombed the Chinese embassy). The 'invisible' radar works by monitoring all existing radiowave transmissions & nalysing aberations - an aberation would be caused by craft such as stealth aircraft. If the aberation could be observed as moving in a manner consistent with the characteristics of a stealth, then it can be pinpointed & targetted. The Serbs stunned US when they downed one stealth & badly damaged another. Both Russia & China would appear to have been using these regional conflicts to test new concepts & probe US military for weaknesses. As mentioned previously, am of the opinion that Russia has been a key tactical advisor to North Korea. Cheers Doug Marker Spectres from our past: Beware the future when your children & theirs come after you for what you may have been willing to condone today - dsm 2003 Motivational: When performing activities, ask yourself if the person you most want to be would do, or say, it - dsm 2003
Post #96,608 by boxley 4/14/03 10:44:57 PM Reply	invisible radar my ass simple, standard radar measures impulses returned. Those that go straight out to space have no return. Any stealth aircraft will have a muddled disjointed return which based on speed and direction of muddle extapolates stealth aircraft. thanx, bill will work for cash and other incentives [link\|http://home.tampabay.rr.com/boxley/resume/Resume.html\|skill set] questions, help? [link\|mailto:pappas@catholic.org\|email pappas at catholic.org] Carpe Dieu
Post #96,655 by cybermace5 4/15/03 9:43:33 AM Reply	Re: invisible radar my ass No, seriously, it's passive. In fact I believe they are using cell phone towers as signal sources. Stealth technology depends on reflecting incoming signals in a different direction, and absorbing the rest. However if you have signals coming from many directions, more of those signals may be reflected to the detector. In fact, if you also have many detectors and can synchronize them, you can detect plenty of return. So the stealths have perfectly flat bottoms, meaning if they maintain a level flight path, the radar won't pick them up until directly overhead because the signal will bounce to the ground somewhere else. Now if you have detectors over a large area, you can detect the bounced signal and figure out where it came from. With enough "benign" transmitters and detectors, you can detect returns without overt radar transmissions.
Post #96,677 by Arkadiy 4/15/03 11:55:33 AM Reply	About time stealth tech were defeated I wonder what new stuff they have up their sleeves -- It made Ketchup! Sweet Ketchup! Put it on a hot dog, put it on a burger, Put it on your sister and she'll holler blody murder! Sweet Ketchup. --Tom Paxton.
Post #96,722 by dmarker 4/15/03 5:26:13 PM Reply	ass (the only appropriate word in your title :-) "standard radar measures impulses returned" The so called 'invisible radar" doesn't rely on traditional radar transmissions. Cybermace5 knows his stuff on this topic. Read him again. Now go back to sleep (you must be sleep posting :-) Cheers Doug Spectres from our past: Beware the future when your children & theirs come after you for what you may have been willing to condone today - dsm 2003 Motivational: When performing activities, ask yourself if the person you most want to be would do, or say, it - dsm 2003
Post #96,678 by drewk 4/15/03 12:02:42 PM Reply	Heard that bout subs If Clancey had this one right, and whatever you think of his fiction his research usually seems to be sound, you can actually locate U.S. missle subs by the "hole" in background noise in their direction. === Implicitly condoning stupidity since 2001.
Post #96,712 by cybermace5 4/15/03 4:31:58 PM Reply	Re: Heard that bout subs Aww ya think? I bet they have some kind of noise generators to counteract that effect (if it exists). Just like the best camoflage isn't absorbing ALL light, but matching your environment.

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