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Post #95,797
by folkert
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4/10/03 2:14:14 PM
4/10/03 2:15:03 PM
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New Hey try my Idea.... shown:
[link|/forums/render/content/show?contentid=95033|Tricky Idea]

You might just NOT have to deal with it!

Worst that can happen is you have to "install" debian... be a learning Experience if you can get it!!!!
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Post #95,807
by drewk
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4/10/03 2:34:34 PM
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New Used your other one: installed from Knoppix
I'm posting from it now. Now I just have to get it to use Gnome ...
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Post #95,823
by drewk
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4/10/03 3:05:58 PM
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New Man, there's a lot to prune
Knoppix dumps an absolute boatload of apps on the hard drive. I guess that's what it needs for the demo, but now I have to go through and clean it up.

Posting this from lynx while I'm busy purging KDE in another tty.
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Post #95,852
by pwhysall
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4/10/03 4:21:45 PM
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New Re: Man, there's a lot to prune
Coupla things.

Firstly, you can kill KDE dead with "apt-get remove libqt4". Nobbling GNOME is likewise a matter of zapping GTK.

Secondly, get debfoster and orphaner going NOW.

debfoster presents you with a list of packages that nothing depends on, and asks you if you want to keep them - if you Prune them, all the deps go, too.

orphaner shows you packages that are not depended on by anything - by default, it only shows you libs, but will show you ALL packages that are non-depended-upon if you supply the "-a" switch. orphaner is provided by the "deborphan" package.

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Post #95,863
by drewk
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4/10/03 4:51:35 PM
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New What exactly is the difference?
They both seem to provide lists of things that nothing depends on. How are they different?
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Post #95,866
by pwhysall
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4/10/03 4:55:22 PM
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New Re: What exactly is the difference?
orphaner makes you pick individual packages to uninstall.

debfoster is the tactical nuke of package removal - with a couple of keystrokes, you can blat enormous amounts of software from your system.

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Post #95,867
by drewk
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4/10/03 4:56:38 PM
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New OK
So orphaner finds things that are already unused, foster allows you to remove a package and everything that is only used by it. Got it.
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Post #95,870
by drewk
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4/10/03 4:59:41 PM
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New Why does it keep generating locales?
This is the step that keeps taking so long, and it does it after every action I take with apt.
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Post #95,871
by drewk
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4/10/03 5:00:01 PM
4/10/03 5:00:42 PM
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New Oops, dupe
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Post #96,518
by drewk
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4/14/03 1:06:49 PM
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New Another method
Do a fresh Knoppix hd install. Do apt-get upgrade, anser no, and view the list of how many things are going to be updated. Then apt-get remove foo fo2 foo3 foo4 ... fooN of everything you don't want. At least I'm avoiding downloading 280M of updates to (mostly) things I don't want anyway. Then use debfoster and orphaner (which BTW come with Knoppix by default).
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     That's it, I've had it - (drewk) - (18) - April 10, 2003, 12:57:39 PM EDT
         Bye bye, 168 days uptime, bye bye RedHat -NT - (drewk) - (4) - April 10, 2003, 01:51:34 PM EDT
             Keep notes, Drew. - (a6l6e6x) - (3) - April 10, 2003, 11:22:30 PM EDT
                 Well, you wouldn't want to follow the current procedure - (drewk) - (2) - April 11, 2003, 08:45:56 AM EDT
                     You can always serve as a useful purpose to the world as... - (kmself) - (1) - April 11, 2003, 12:56:20 PM EDT
                         Seeming more true by the minute - (drewk) - April 11, 2003, 01:05:07 PM EDT
         Hey try my Idea.... shown: - (folkert) - (9) - April 10, 2003, 02:15:03 PM EDT
             Used your other one: installed from Knoppix - (drewk) - (8) - April 10, 2003, 02:34:34 PM EDT
                 Man, there's a lot to prune - (drewk) - (7) - April 10, 2003, 03:05:58 PM EDT
                     Re: Man, there's a lot to prune - (pwhysall) - (6) - April 10, 2003, 04:21:45 PM EDT
                         What exactly is the difference? - (drewk) - (5) - April 10, 2003, 04:51:35 PM EDT
                             Re: What exactly is the difference? - (pwhysall) - (4) - April 10, 2003, 04:55:22 PM EDT
                                 OK - (drewk) - April 10, 2003, 04:56:38 PM EDT
                                 Why does it keep generating locales? - (drewk) - April 10, 2003, 04:59:41 PM EDT
                                 Oops, dupe -NT - (drewk) - April 10, 2003, 05:00:42 PM EDT
                                 Another method - (drewk) - April 14, 2003, 01:06:49 PM EDT
         Keep an eye on /var - (scoenye) - (2) - April 13, 2003, 04:23:47 PM EDT
             /var sizing on Debian: ~1GB - (kmself) - (1) - April 13, 2003, 04:58:27 PM EDT
                 1G for /var? hahahahaha - (drewk) - April 14, 2003, 08:20:57 AM EDT

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