so haiku is not poetry?

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Post #95,585 by boxley 4/9/03 10:22:38 PM Reply	so haiku is not poetry? Songs of solomon and david not poetic? Think we have the word rhymes and poems mixed up. In rhymes the cadence must match preceding lines in a pattern, In poetry the cadence must match the cadence. thanx, bill will work for cash and other incentives [link\|http://home.tampabay.rr.com/boxley/resume/Resume.html\|skill set] questions, help? [link\|mailto:pappas@catholic.org\|email pappas at catholic.org] Since corporations are the equivelent of human but they have no "concience" they are by definition sociopaths
Post #95,592 by Arkadiy 4/9/03 10:42:45 PM 4/9/03 10:54:26 PM Reply	Haiku has very, very strict rhythm If it's one sillable off, it's not haiku. I don't know about rhymes, they don't survibe translation well. DOn't know about David and Solomon. I am trying to learn Hebrew alphaet at the moment (not for reasons of poetry :) ), will report when I can read (sound) them in the original. -- It made Ketchup! Sweet Ketchup! Put it on a hot dog, put it on a burger, Put it on your sister and she'll holler blody murder! Sweet Ketchup. --Tom Paxton. Edited by Arkadiy April 9, 2003, 10:54:26 PM EDT Expand All History
Post #95,602 by boxley 4/9/03 11:18:09 PM Reply	sheesh only a Russian :-) I am not planning on living in Israel anytime soon so am putting off learning hebrew. Can pick it out of a crowd enough to embarrass myself for asking Palestinians if they are Israelis :-) Most of the sounds are hork a lugey(an expression by certain comedians) and mor constanents than vowels. As a Russian who has learned english at your level, hebrew should be a snap. thanx, bill will work for cash and other incentives [link\|http://home.tampabay.rr.com/boxley/resume/Resume.html\|skill set] questions, help? [link\|mailto:pappas@catholic.org\|email pappas at catholic.org] Since corporations are the equivelent of human but they have no "concience" they are by definition sociopaths
Post #95,770 by Arkadiy 4/10/03 1:12:49 PM Reply	Being a Rusian jew might be some help :<) -- It made Ketchup! Sweet Ketchup! Put it on a hot dog, put it on a burger, Put it on your sister and she'll holler blody murder! Sweet Ketchup. --Tom Paxton.
Post #95,607 by boxley 4/9/03 11:31:28 PM Reply	haiku the explanation (of which i am probably way off on is seventeen related words in 5 lines no more no less) I observe the sky it matches the blue of my drink entrancing me I snore loadly farting thank you very much bill will work for cash and other incentives [link\|http://home.tampabay.rr.com/boxley/resume/Resume.html\|skill set] questions, help? [link\|mailto:pappas@catholic.org\|email pappas at catholic.org] Since corporations are the equivelent of human but they have no "concience" they are by definition sociopaths
Post #95,613 by inthane-chan 4/9/03 11:40:59 PM Reply	Haiku is 5-7-5. That's something else. ;) When fresh snow does fall A girlfriend with a smile cannot be trusted Damnit, now I gotta go find the original. Then there's Basho: Writing crap about Freshly falling snow does not make good poetry After 9/11, Bush made two statements: 1. "Terrorists hate America because America is a land of freedom and opportunity." 2. "We intend to attack the root causes of terrorism." Sounds like everything is going according to plan.
Post #95,617 by boxley 4/9/03 11:53:55 PM Reply	thats 5 5 3? will work for cash and other incentives [link\|http://home.tampabay.rr.com/boxley/resume/Resume.html\|skill set] questions, help? [link\|mailto:pappas@catholic.org\|email pappas at catholic.org] Since corporations are the equivelent of human but they have no "concience" they are by definition sociopaths
Post #95,618 by rcareaga 4/9/03 11:56:56 PM Reply	Re: thats 5 5 3? Frail and lonely moth Seeking warmth of candle's flame Goddamn idiot. --Saul Steinberg, ca. 1963 "Die Welt ist alles, was der Fall ist."
Post #95,626 by inthane-chan 4/10/03 12:12:40 AM Reply	LMAO! Good one. Box, 5-7-5 refers to the number of syllables, not words. After 9/11, Bush made two statements: 1. "Terrorists hate America because America is a land of freedom and opportunity." 2. "We intend to attack the root causes of terrorism." Sounds like everything is going according to plan.
Post #95,689 by boxley 4/10/03 10:13:09 AM Reply	okay 5,7,5 the wind is blowing tree tops whipping swirling sky wilding rain crying better? thanx, bill will work for cash and other incentives [link\|http://home.tampabay.rr.com/boxley/resume/Resume.html\|skill set] questions, help? [link\|mailto:pappas@catholic.org\|email pappas at catholic.org] Since corporations are the equivelent of human but they have no "concience" they are by definition sociopaths
Post #95,734 by inthane-chan 4/10/03 11:03:13 AM Reply	Yup. After 9/11, Bush made two statements: 1. "Terrorists hate America because America is a land of freedom and opportunity." 2. "We intend to attack the root causes of terrorism." Sounds like everything is going according to plan.
Post #95,621 by a6l6e6x 4/10/03 12:02:00 AM Reply	Windows haiku. Chaos reigns within. Reflect, repent, and reboot. Order shall return. Windows NT crashed. I am the Blue Screen of Death. No one hears your screams. Alex Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from religious conviction. -- Blaise Pascal (1623-1662)
Post #95,692 by boxley 4/10/03 10:14:34 AM Reply	didnt Ben have a haiku generator? will work for cash and other incentives [link\|http://home.tampabay.rr.com/boxley/resume/Resume.html\|skill set] questions, help? [link\|mailto:pappas@catholic.org\|email pappas at catholic.org] Since corporations are the equivelent of human but they have no "concience" they are by definition sociopaths

The Poetry of Donald Rumsfeld - (cwbrenn) - (29) - April 3, 2003, 10:07:25 AM EST

ROFL -NT - (deSitter) - April 3, 2003, 10:34:01 AM EST

The apotheosis of English poetry - (Arkadiy) - (27) - April 7, 2003, 12:47:06 PM EDT

Don't know if this is snobbery or sarcasm - (deSitter) - (26) - April 10, 2003, 08:58:49 AM EDT

Rhyme - nonexisting - (Arkadiy) - (25) - April 9, 2003, 09:22:41 PM EDT

Re: Rhyme - nonexisting - (rcareaga) - (7) - April 9, 2003, 10:15:38 PM EDT

"Transcends cathegories" - (Arkadiy) - (6) - April 9, 2003, 10:53:29 PM EDT

Brodsky, Blake - (rcareaga) - April 9, 2003, 11:12:22 PM EDT

Thanks - pronunciation hints. Yevtushenko story - (Ashton) - (4) - April 10, 2003, 04:41:20 AM EDT

Yevtushenko - outstanding -NT - (deSitter) - April 10, 2003, 09:01:47 AM EDT

Yevtushenko -- old? - (rcareaga) - (1) - April 10, 2003, 11:53:55 AM EDT

Re: Yevtushenko -- old? - (Ashton) - April 13, 2003, 06:49:27 PM EDT

Don't know _who_ would be interested - (Arkadiy) - April 15, 2003, 02:26:14 PM EDT

so haiku is not poetry? - (boxley) - (12) - April 9, 2003, 10:22:38 PM EDT

Haiku has very, very strict rhythm - (Arkadiy) - (11) - April 9, 2003, 10:54:26 PM EDT

sheesh only a Russian :-) - (boxley) - (1) - April 9, 2003, 11:18:09 PM EDT

Being a Rusian jew might be some help :<) -NT - (Arkadiy) - April 10, 2003, 01:12:49 PM EDT

haiku - (boxley) - (8) - April 9, 2003, 11:31:28 PM EDT

Haiku is 5-7-5. That's something else. ;) - (inthane-chan) - (7) - April 9, 2003, 11:40:59 PM EDT

thats 5 5 3? -NT - (boxley) - (6) - April 9, 2003, 11:53:55 PM EDT

Re: thats 5 5 3? - (rcareaga) - (3) - April 9, 2003, 11:56:56 PM EDT

LMAO! - (inthane-chan) - (2) - April 10, 2003, 12:12:40 AM EDT

okay 5,7,5 - (boxley) - (1) - April 10, 2003, 10:13:09 AM EDT

Yup. -NT - (inthane-chan) - April 10, 2003, 11:03:13 AM EDT

Windows haiku. - (a6l6e6x) - (1) - April 10, 2003, 12:02:00 AM EDT

didnt Ben have a haiku generator? -NT - (boxley) - April 10, 2003, 10:14:34 AM EDT

Funny you should mention Pushkin. - (a6l6e6x) - (3) - April 9, 2003, 11:21:14 PM EDT

Hmmm - Moz 1.2.1 renders the Cyrillic fine - (Ashton) - April 10, 2003, 03:46:38 AM EDT

Very good translation! - (Arkadiy) - (1) - April 10, 2003, 01:22:27 PM EDT

I found it on a Russian site. - (a6l6e6x) - April 10, 2003, 03:14:31 PM EDT

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