I had been wondering how many aircraft that Iraq ...

Post #92,977 by dmarker 3/30/03 12:14:40 AM Reply	I had been wondering how many aircraft that Iraq ... has hidden, waiting for a stalled US to be caught short (cut US supplies or destroy them) so he can then throw them at the advance units who may be stuck without good air support. I am aware that we no longer keep hearing of reports of Apache squadrons going in to kick Iraqi ass. It seems Saddam's boys found a strategy that so damaged the first major attack near Bagdhad that they never reached their objective, lost one intact machine, & all others returned with varying degrees of damage. The pilots we had quoted here spoke of flying through a hornets nest of ground fire. Doug M Spectres from our past: Beware the future when your children & theirs come after you for what you may have been willing to condone today - dsm 2003 Motivational: When performing activities, ask yourself if the person you most want to be would do, or say, it - dsm 2003
Post #92,993 by JayMehaffey 3/30/03 1:53:14 AM Reply	I doubt we will see the aircraft I doubt we will see the Iraqi aircraft for more then one desperate gesture. The moment an Iraqi plane takes into the air, we would swarm in under with F-15s. That said, Iraq is supposed to have 100 or so Mirage F1s, which are out of date, but not nearly as much as the Migs they tried to use during the first Gulf War. I am aware that we no longer keep hearing of reports of Apache squadrons going in to kick Iraqi ass. It seems Saddam's boys found a strategy that so damaged the first major attack near Bagdhad that they never reached their objective, lost one intact machine, & all others returned with varying degrees of damage. The pilots we had quoted here spoke of flying through a hornets nest of ground fire. The Russian site I mentioned before said we where trying use the Apaches as if they where flying tanks, puting them in large groups and using them on offense by themselves. This tactic has supposedly been reversed and the Apaches broken up into small units attached to the ground forces for support and recon. Jay
Post #93,036 by inthane-chan 3/30/03 9:30:17 AM Reply	Wouldn't that be F-16s? I was under the impression that the F-15 was a ground-attack plane, and the F-16 was the air superiority plane... God does not play dice with the universe: He plays an ineffable game of His own devising, which might be compared, from the perspective of any of the other players [i.e. everybody], to being involved in an obscure and complex variant of poker in a pitch-dark room, with blank cards, for infinite stakes, with a Dealer who won't tell you the rules, and who smiles all the time.
Post #93,042 by bluke 3/30/03 9:58:48 AM Reply	No the other way around the F-15 is the air superiority fighter, although both can be used in both roles.
Post #93,138 by inthane-chan 3/30/03 5:21:08 PM Reply	Thanks.

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