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New What is up with the rumors of SILKWORM Cruise missiles?
Brandi, can you find proof it wasn't?

Marlowe, can you find proof it was?

Appears to have been a Chinese Marked Silkworm Cruise Missile that flew into Kuwait and blew up INSIDE a shoppping mall that entered in the "wrong" side it came from. IOW it circled around and flew in the glass...

Hmmm... would be significant if it was true.
Hmmm... would be significant if it was a plant.
Hmmm... would be significant if it was from Iran.
Hmmm... would be significant if it was fired from "friendly forces".

I know which one Brandioch would choose... if he could.
I know which one Marlowe would choose... if he could.

The proof is there, which deduction does it support.
b4k4^2
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New Re: What is up with the rumors of SILKWORM Cruise missiles?
I think it actually just splashed in the ocean.
New Not what I was asking for...
The proof we need is there... verify it... and we see either Brandioch or Marlowe shut-up (and either group associated with thier view).

Either way is a win for IWETHEY. I didna make the server big enough to handle an "extended" continuous right-shift thread war.. It ONLY has 80GB of storage... >:-)
b4k4^2
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[link|http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,3959,857673,00.asp|Writing on wall, Microsoft to develop apps for Linux by 2004]
Heimatland Geheime Staatspolizei reminds:
These [link|http://www.whitehouse.gov/pcipb/cyberspace_strategy.pdf|Civilian General Orders], please memorize them.
"Questions" will be asked at safety checkpoints.
New stupid fscker I can do 1 gig right shift with brani myself ?
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Since corporations are the equivelent of human but they have no "concience" they are by definition sociopaths
New Why did you waste your time posting that ???

What enlightenment are you offering us ?


Spectres from our past: Beware the future when your children & theirs come after you for what you may have been willing to condone today - dsm 2003


Motivational: When performing activities, ask yourself if the person you most want to be would do, or say, it - dsm 2003
New Re: Why did you waste your time posting that ???
I posted that when it still news. gfolkert apparently had some misguided information. Why did you waste time posting this, instead of looking at the time I posted it and realizing it was near the time news was coming out?
New From the New York Times.
[link|http://www.nytimes.com/2003/03/29/international/worldspecial/29KUWA.html?ex=1049518800&en=fabf7ac235fb74f3&ei=5062&partner=GOOGLE|The New York Times]

An explosion rocked an empty shopping mall on the waterfront in the Kuwaiti capital early today, sending a huge plume of white smoke towering into the night sky. Kuwaiti officials said a missile that had landed in the water nearby was responsible.

Witnesses who gathered shortly after the explosion at 1:45 a.m. local time could see a twisted piece of metal on the esplanade near the shoreline about the size of a wastebasket and bearing the number "5420" in red. The words "place" and "protractor" could also be made out on a shard. Emergency workers put those and other fragments in white bags that they took away for analysis.

Despite indications that a missile had struck the water near the rear entrance to the Sharq mall, by the Sharqiah cinema, witnesses reported hearing no air-raid sirens before the blast that would have indicated an incoming missile.

Some Kuwaiti officials who examined the fragments said they believed the missile was actually an errant American cruise missile that had been fired from the Persian Gulf toward Iraq.

"It was an American cruise missile, we know from the markings and writing on it," said a Kuwaiti police colonel who did not give his name. "It doesn't go up, it comes in low from the sea, and that's why there was no alert."

Another uniformed Kuwaiti official said that he, too, believed the missile to have been American and said that it that "came from the sea." He then added that "it was a mistake, it was a mistake" that it had struck Kuwait.
It also struck at 1:45 am (that's IN THE MORNING).

Not a good time to pick if you're going to hit the mall.

But it might have missed its target (if it was Iraqi).

In Washington, the chief Pentagon spokeswoman, Victoria Clarke, asked about reports that Kuwaiti officials were blaming an American missile for the damage, said it was too early to tell what had happened or whose missile it was.
We'll see.

The proof is there, which deduction does it support.
I think that you may be jumping the gun a little bit, again.
New CNN...with verifiable source
[link|http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/03/28/sprj.irq.war.main/index.html|http://www.cnn.com/2...r.main/index.html]

The missile's tail was found in a nearby canal and Kuwaiti Information Minister Ahmad Fahd al-Sabah told CNN the missile was a Chinese-made "Silkworm," which Iraq has used in the past.
If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. Fudd's First Law of Opposition

[link|mailto:bepatient@aol.com|BePatient]
New prediction verified watch this space
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Since corporations are the equivelent of human but they have no "concience" they are by definition sociopaths
New I have now seen about 10 sources now...
...that have "verified" through both Kuwaiti and US officials in Kuwait and US in Washington...

They have matched up the tail section of the missile as being a piece of a Chinese made Silkworm Anti-Ship missile...

Iraq has used these in the past on everything BUT ships. No Silkworm Missiles have been used by "coalition" forces. What could be the explaination?

1.) Iraqi troops/forces fired this to harrass Kuwait.
2.) Iraqi Saddamn sympathizers fired this to make the Coalition forces look suspicious.
3.) Iraqi Opposition forces fired this at Iraqi Military targets and GROSSLY mis-aimed.
4.) Coalition forces fired this "planted" missile to make Iraq look bad.
5.) Someone just has it in for Kuwait.

I am predicting, a prediction is going to come up short... which one... dunno... but evidence is starting to mount one way.
b4k4^2
[link|mailto:curley95@attbi.com|greg] - Grand-Master Artist in IT
[link|http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry/|REMEMBER ED CURRY!]   [link|http://pascal.rockford.com:8888/SSK@kQMsmc74S0Tw3KHQiRQmDem0gAIPAgM/edcurry/1//|ED'S GHOST SPEAKS!]
[link|http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,3959,857673,00.asp|Writing on wall, Microsoft to develop apps for Linux by 2004]
Heimatland Geheime Staatspolizei reminds:
These [link|http://www.whitehouse.gov/pcipb/cyberspace_strategy.pdf|Civilian General Orders], please memorize them.
"Questions" will be asked at safety checkpoints.
New 6) Kim Jong Il's feeling left out. :-/
Sorry.

I think a lot of these questions (this missile, the market and neighborhood explosions in Baghdad, etc.) won't have believable public explanations until after the conflict settles down. And even then there will be controversy.

Cheers,
Scott.
New Doesn't matter what you believe - Iraqis are in no doubt

& it is their anger that is mounting - fuel for suicide attacks.

Just seems like classic fuck up or tactical miscalculation to me. Whatever, we are the losers.

Doug Marker


Spectres from our past: Beware the future when your children & theirs come after you for what you may have been willing to condone today - dsm 2003


Motivational: When performing activities, ask yourself if the person you most want to be would do, or say, it - dsm 2003
     What is up with the rumors of SILKWORM Cruise missiles? - (folkert) - (11)
         Re: What is up with the rumors of SILKWORM Cruise missiles? - (cybermace5) - (4)
             Not what I was asking for... - (folkert) - (1)
                 stupid fscker I can do 1 gig right shift with brani myself ? -NT - (boxley)
             Why did you waste your time posting that ??? - (dmarker) - (1)
                 Re: Why did you waste your time posting that ??? - (cybermace5)
         From the New York Times. - (Brandioch) - (5)
             CNN...with verifiable source - (bepatient) - (4)
                 prediction verified watch this space -NT - (boxley)
                 I have now seen about 10 sources now... - (folkert) - (2)
                     6) Kim Jong Il's feeling left out. :-/ - (Another Scott) - (1)
                         Doesn't matter what you believe - Iraqis are in no doubt - (dmarker)

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