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Post #89,078 by deSitter 3/18/03 11:34:16 AM Reply	WE did this WE did. In the US, we had the option of choosing the govt. We chose this one. WE did this. WE ruined it. WE did. -drl
Post #89,080 by bepatient 3/18/03 11:49:38 AM Reply	Deep End ----> You are Here If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. _{Fudd's First Law of Opposition} [link\|mailto:bepatient@aol.com\|BePatient]
Post #89,094 by mmoffitt 3/18/03 12:50:36 PM Reply	A chat with my daughter. My 10 year old daughter is studying the Constitution in her fourth grade class. This morning she asked me how it could be that Dubya could declare war. "We are supposed to have Presidents, not Kings. They [founders] didn't want us to have Kings, Daddy, so why is Bush acting like one? Only the Congress is supposed to declare war." I told her that was a very good question and that she should ask it in school today. I then gave her my own perspective. There is hope out there. It's small and quiet. But we can hope it is growing. bcnu, Mikem Osama bin Laden's brother could fly in US airspace 9/15/01, but I had to wait for FBI and CIA background checks, 'nuff said?
Post #89,104 by deSitter 3/18/03 1:19:14 PM Reply	Re: A chat with my daughter. Today I am ashamed of my American heritage. I'm telling you, it is making me sick inside. I cannot work. You give your daughter a special present from me - a copy of the Constitution. Read it out loud with her over and over again until she has it memorized. -drl
Post #89,110 by rcareaga 3/18/03 1:50:12 PM Reply	Re: A chat with my daughter. You give your daughter a special present from me - a copy of the Constitution. Read it out loud with her over and over again until she has it memorized That's a lot to ask of a 10 year-old. Tell you what, mmoffitt, just read her the Special Ashcroft Abridged Edition. It's much shorter, should be easier to commit to memory. cordially, "Die Welt ist alles, was der Fall ist."
Post #89,146 by Simon_Jester 3/18/03 3:02:33 PM Reply	Isn't that the version that goes "I will obey"?
Post #89,151 by mmoffitt 3/18/03 3:11:27 PM Reply	What I fear most is ... Mein Kampf being "Muricanized" and made required reading. bcnu, Mikem Osama bin Laden's brother could fly in US airspace 9/15/01, but I had to wait for FBI and CIA background checks, 'nuff said?
Post #89,171 by boxley 3/18/03 3:44:10 PM Reply	Far as I know the Turner Diaries arnt required reading "yet" will work for cash and other incentives [link\|http://home.tampabay.rr.com/boxley/resume/Resume.html\|skill set] questions, help? [link\|mailto:pappas@catholic.org\|email pappas at catholic.org]</br> To a lot of people in California hunting anything but the wild tofualope was equivelent to sacarificing babies to satan. S.M. Stirling
Post #89,156 by orion 3/18/03 3:21:33 PM Reply	Not we many people didn't vote for Bush. Besides Bush wasn't really elected, he won on a technicality because some Florida voters couldn't see the arrow that pointed to the correct chad to punch out on the punch card. Our system is broken and it needs an overhaul. Wait until the next election, encourage as many people as you can to vote. If they don't vote, they give up control to other people to pick the government. "Bill gates cannot guarantee Windows, so how are you going to guarantee my safety?" -John Crichton to the Emperor of the Scarrans on [link\|http://www.farscape.com\|FarScape]
Post #89,193 by ben_tilly 3/18/03 4:25:18 PM Reply	We did? I thought that a majority of those who voted, voted for Gore. And there are enough irregularities in the election process that it is hard to figure out who (if anyone) properly won. We are in the process of making our voting system ever easier to manipulate. The US. The self-proclaimed purveyor of Democracy to the rest of the world. By history is a republic, not a democracy. And cannot in the present manage an election that would be certified by unbiased election observers. In fact the discrepancies are so large that in the last two elections exit polls have been unable to agree with election results, and IIRC there were "amazing" discrepancies between other poll projections and actual results in Georgia... Cheers, Ben "good ideas and bad code build communities, the other three combinations do not" - [link\|http://archives.real-time.com/pipermail/cocoon-devel/2000-October/003023.html\|Stefano Mazzocchi]

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