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Post #88,480 by Silverlock 3/14/03 11:30:58 PM 3/14/03 11:31:57 PM Reply	No Throw in a quote that illustrates your point and I might, otherwise no. Clinton, Clinton, Clinton. Is that all you guys ever think about? Do you see him hiding around every corner? Does he haunt your dreams? I dunno, if I was you I'd probably WANT to forget about the great William Jefferson Clinton. Unlike the current president, he managed peace, prosperity, balanced budgets, lower poverty and child poverty rates, 21 million new jobs, 50,000 new teachers, 100,000 new cops, the lowest crime rate in 25 years, greater worker protections, the highest home ownership rate in history, the protection of Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security... Mind you, he did also have a penis, the evil bastard. --[link\|http://www.democraticunderground.com/\|Democratic Underground] Edited by Silverlock March 14, 2003, 11:31:57 PM EST Expand All History
Post #88,481 by Another Scott 3/14/03 11:42:37 PM Reply	Okies. DeSitter said he respects [link\|http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/content/show?contentid=87491\|Dole] and [link\|http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/content/show?contentid=87670\|McCain] and they've both come out with articles in support of Bush's policy with respect to Iraq. He said he thinks they've presented good arguments. DeSitter likes painting Republicans as the personification of evil in US politics, as he did [link\|http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/content/show?contentid=88464\|here]. Yet Dole and McCain are Republicans. I just thought it was a little funny, that's all. YMMV, and apparently does. :-) Cheers, Scott.
Post #88,483 by boxley 3/15/03 12:11:43 AM Reply	there is several wings of the republican party dixiecrats the democrats of segragation and religious seclusion who changed parties to reflect their constituancies of conservative less government and states rights. The goldwater camp who truly beleived in less government for all and the moderate republican party who wants government out of both places, the wallet and the bedroom. thanx, bill will work for cash and other incentives [link\|http://home.tampabay.rr.com/boxley/resume/Resume.html\|skill set] questions, help? [link\|mailto:pappas@catholic.org\|email pappas at catholic.org]</br> This nation . . . has no right to expect that it always will have wise and humane rulers, sincerely attached to the principles of the Constitution. . . . [If] the calamities of war again befall us, the dangers to human liberty are frightful to contemplate. \ufffdUnited States Supreme Court, Ex Parte Milligan, 1866, declaring Abraham Lincoln's suspension of habeas corpus and other abuses of the Bill of Rights unconstitutional
Post #88,484 by Another Scott 3/15/03 12:19:22 AM Reply	Sure, but that goes for any big party. There are factions. But he doesn't talk about wiping out only the Rockefeller wing of the party. (I think they were already wiped out by 1985 anyway.) :-) I guess I'm easily amused, but I find his rants against [link\|http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/content/show?contentid=88464\|"those radical sons of whores"] while praising other members of the same party rather funny. Enough on this stuff from me. Have a good weekend! Cheers, Scott.
Post #88,491 by deSitter 3/15/03 12:37:26 AM Reply	Re: Sure, but that goes for any big party. There are facti I can't help it - they just collapsed morally, so you can't help but feel disgust. As noted, there are historical Republicans I greatly admire. As recent as the early 90s, when I KNEW the Republicans were wrong, they did not induce disgust. Clinton induced disgust. Somewhere in the Clinton years the entire Republican effort just seemed to degenerate in a fiendish, counter-revolutionary rage against the social change of the 60s. It's almost like a shameful thing for them to admit that people need real help, not "opportunity". The help they need is to be allowed to feel worthwhile by working and contributing - it's not much, but it's beyond the Republicans to understand what this means. -drl
Post #88,495 by Silverlock 3/15/03 12:59:45 AM Reply	Point made. I was reading more into it than you meant. I'm glad I asked before spouting off. Clinton, Clinton, Clinton. Is that all you guys ever think about? Do you see him hiding around every corner? Does he haunt your dreams? I dunno, if I was you I'd probably WANT to forget about the great William Jefferson Clinton. Unlike the current president, he managed peace, prosperity, balanced budgets, lower poverty and child poverty rates, 21 million new jobs, 50,000 new teachers, 100,000 new cops, the lowest crime rate in 25 years, greater worker protections, the highest home ownership rate in history, the protection of Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security... Mind you, he did also have a penis, the evil bastard. --[link\|http://www.democraticunderground.com/\|Democratic Underground]

Straw blames France for interferring. - (Brandioch) - (14) - March 14, 2003, 10:12:58 AM EST

This is repulsive to me. - (mmoffitt) - (13) - March 14, 2003, 05:16:39 PM EST

There is still hope. - (Brandioch) - (1) - March 14, 2003, 07:42:30 PM EST

Indeed. Dubya hasn't disappointed me. Blair, OTOH has. - (mmoffitt) - March 14, 2003, 08:31:31 PM EST

Re: This is repulsive to me. - (deSitter) - (10) - March 14, 2003, 10:24:16 PM EST

Um, Dole and McCain are Republicans, remember? -NT - (Another Scott) - (9) - March 14, 2003, 10:42:41 PM EST

What's your point? -NT - (Silverlock) - (7) - March 14, 2003, 11:15:59 PM EST

See #87491 and #87670. -NT - (Another Scott) - (6) - March 14, 2003, 11:21:21 PM EST

No - (Silverlock) - (5) - March 14, 2003, 11:31:57 PM EST

Okies. - (Another Scott) - (4) - March 14, 2003, 11:42:37 PM EST

there is several wings of the republican party - (boxley) - (2) - March 15, 2003, 12:11:43 AM EST

Sure, but that goes for any big party. There are factions. - (Another Scott) - (1) - March 15, 2003, 12:19:22 AM EST

Re: Sure, but that goes for any big party. There are facti - (deSitter) - March 15, 2003, 12:37:26 AM EST

Point made. - (Silverlock) - March 15, 2003, 12:59:45 AM EST

Re: Um, Dole and McCain are Republicans, remember? - (deSitter) - March 15, 2003, 12:00:08 AM EST

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