I forgot to add that if you join Portaffinity, it is essentially a mailing list, (all Yahoo groups are), but I never considered it to be one, because I read all my groups live. (At the site).
So, in order to join it and not get e-mail from it, either you have to set your preferences to no mail, or simply ask me to do it for you. :)
Sorry about not explaining that sooner.
Nightowl >8#