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New More concern of Iraqi government for its subjects' feelings
[link|http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2003/03/07/wagon07.xml&sSheet=/news/2003/03/07/ixnewstop.html|Feel the love]

Excerpt:

Shortly after three o'clock on a hot afternoon 37-year-old Nazif Mamik Tofik, an Iraqi Kurd, approached the border post carrying two five-gallon canisters of fuel.

She hoped to cross to the Kurdish-controlled side and sell them for a pound or two, which would help feed her eight hungry children.

As she stepped up to the Iraqi checkpoint, a military policeman suddenly pulled a knife, slashed open the flimsy plastic containers and splashed petrol all over her.

Then the head of the Iraqi border guard casually walked up to her, pulled a lighter from his pocket and set her ablaze. Soaked in fuel, she began to burn like a torch. That was on Monday afternoon. Yesterday Nazif lay in Sulaimania emergency hospital, on the Iraqi side, whimpering with pain. She had third degree burns and doctors said she was lucky to be alive.

I say:

Who are we to judge... no, that won't work. How about: the same thing happens in America! Um, haven't heard of it happening. Well, say it anyway! Make it up if you have to!
No oil for TotalFinaElf!
CHICKENHAWK! Scourge of clucking hens everywhere!
Victory is the answer. There are no alternatives.
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New The Iraqi government hates the Kurds.
Did that little fact escape your attention?

:)
New So the Kurds aren't the Iraqi people?
I'm just trying to determine just who it is that the Iraqi government doesn't hate. Because you seem to think the Kurds are a special case somehow.

By the way, are you suggesting that hatred is a justification for this sort thing? Oh wait. Silly me. Presuming you must have a point of some sort. Forgot who I was talking to.
No oil for TotalFinaElf!
CHICKENHAWK! Scourge of clucking hens everywhere!
Victory is the answer. There are no alternatives.
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New Need an example? The black man in the South in 1950's USofA.
The black man was a CITIZEN of this country.

But the black man did NOT have the right to vote.

The black man could be LYNCHED by the local police department.

But the black man was a US citizen.

"Because you seem to think the Kurds are a special case somehow."

"special case" how?

Do you believe that the black man was NOT a US citizen in the 1950's?

Yet the black folk were NOT allowed to eat in the same restaurants and the WHITE folk.

And that was ALLOWED by our government.

I know the Civil Rights Movement is ancient history to school kids today.

But the analogy is good enough in this case.

The Kurds in Iraq are Iraqis
-just like-
the blacks in the South in the 1950's were Americans.

Yet the governments of both have/had no problem supporting oppression and violence against them.

By the way, are you suggesting that hatred is a justification for this sort thing?
No. I'm saying that your use of it as an example of actions against the general Iraqi people is incorrect.

Lynching a black man in the South was considered acceptable.

Lynching a white man in the North would result in criminal convictions.

Yet they are both "Americans".

Did the US government hate the US citizens? Nope.

You see, your problem is your binary viewpoint.
New Well then...that excuses it :-[
And see...our own actions of 50 years ago....they even >justify< it.

Somehow.
If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. Fudd's First Law of Opposition

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Expand Edited by bepatient March 7, 2003, 06:38:07 PM EST
     More concern of Iraqi government for its subjects' feelings - (marlowe) - (4)
         The Iraqi government hates the Kurds. - (Brandioch) - (3)
             So the Kurds aren't the Iraqi people? - (marlowe) - (1)
                 Need an example? The black man in the South in 1950's USofA. - (Brandioch)
             Well then...that excuses it :-[ - (bepatient)

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