Post #85,425
3/4/03 7:48:58 AM
|
Interesting problem; suggestions?
A number of my co-workers have had their work pcs upgraded to the new standard workstation, which is a HP dual 1.8GHz Xeon with a gig of fast ram and scsi160 harddrives and Win2000 OS (no we can't switch to linux. It's a standard package.)
The problem is that one guy demonstrates a rather slow refresh/paint of windows explorer (click on a directory, and one can see the files being added to the listbox individually; normally with that type of machine, the entire directory paints at once.) If he pulls the network cable, the speed is what one would expect. Plug the cable in, speed is ok until dhcp provides an address, then it crawls. If I or others in our group log on his machine, operation is normal. Compiles and large project checkouts run the same as on similar machines no matter who is logged in. Task manager does not show any unusual processes running on his machine when he is logged in. Brand new installation. Virus scan shows nothing. It appears that the machine just hates him, which is ridiculous. I know I shouldn't anthropomorphize computers, they don't like it... So... other than the usual debian stuff, anybody have any suggestions?
Thanks, Hugh
|
Post #85,429
3/4/03 8:30:34 AM
|
Can he recreate the problem on another computer?
If not then switch computers with someone and shrug about Windows. :-)
If so. Well a completely blind stab in the dark says that the DHCP server thinks that he should be placed at a network address that some other computer is already at. Afterwards his computer gets into a foodfight with the other one over who is really X, and network data arrives s-l-o-w-l-y.
Not that I have ever seen this problem. It is just the first scenario that comes to mind off of the top of my head which fits the symptoms.
So what address does DHCP provide him? Take him off of the network and look for that machine...
Cheers, Ben
"good ideas and bad code build communities, the other three combinations do not" - [link|http://archives.real-time.com/pipermail/cocoon-devel/2000-October/003023.html|Stefano Mazzocchi]
|
Post #85,433
3/4/03 9:02:17 AM
|
Question
I would normally have agreed with Ben, but I find it hard to believe that the DCHP would give only the one user a bad address. Also, the next time a user logged in, the IP address could change and problem would go away.
It sounds more like he might have a static IP address in his settings while everyone else is using DCHP and that his static addess is conflicting with another computer.
[link|mailto:jbrabeck@attbi.com|Joe]
|
Post #85,506
3/4/03 12:41:07 PM
|
We are forgetting what DynamicDNS/DHCP have as a...
symbionic relationship...
If it does get replicated to another machine... nearly cinches it.
If it don't, might be a Video setting of his... I know, that alot of slow-downs in the past have been mostly reated to a bogus video setting, or an "Over-Clockers" kind for the Video cards...
That is where I'd start... maybe downgrade the video-card driver or maybe even Update it. Might take care of it, but it might be tied to his profile worse then that.
Also, try and make a "new user" with a copy of his local profile... see if that problem migrates also. Worth a shot.
Does it does this with Remote Desktop too?
b4k4^2
[link|mailto:curley95@attbi.com|greg] - Grand-Master Artist in IT | [link|http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry/|REMEMBER ED CURRY!] [link|http://pascal.rockford.com:8888/SSK@kQMsmc74S0Tw3KHQiRQmDem0gAIPAgM/edcurry/1//|ED'S GHOST SPEAKS!] | [link|http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,3959,857673,00.asp|Writing on wall, Microsoft to develop apps for Linux by 2004] | Heimatland Geheime Staatspolizei reminds: These [link|http://www.whitehouse.gov/pcipb/cyberspace_strategy.pdf|Civilian General Orders], please memorize them. "Questions" will be asked at safety checkpoints. |
|
Post #85,516
3/4/03 1:16:59 PM
|
Doubt video but he made a new user entry.
I doubt the video because if someone else logs in on his machine, there is no problem. He says he compared settings with another machine that does not have the problem. If he logs in on the other machine he has the same problem. He created a new user for access only to his machine and this does not demonstrate the problem. I wasn't even aware that win2k had a Remote Desktop feature. It is sounding like this is being inflicted upon him by our IT people. Sucks to be him...
Thanks, Hugh
|
Post #85,529
3/4/03 2:06:11 PM
|
Sounds like a Roaming Profile issue.
It keeps following him...
Therefore it's has GOT to be in his roaming profile. Which inturn would also spark the DDNS/DHCP thing too...
Either way it is tied to the Profile.
b4k4^2
[link|mailto:curley95@attbi.com|greg] - Grand-Master Artist in IT | [link|http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry/|REMEMBER ED CURRY!] [link|http://pascal.rockford.com:8888/SSK@kQMsmc74S0Tw3KHQiRQmDem0gAIPAgM/edcurry/1//|ED'S GHOST SPEAKS!] | [link|http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,3959,857673,00.asp|Writing on wall, Microsoft to develop apps for Linux by 2004] | Heimatland Geheime Staatspolizei reminds: These [link|http://www.whitehouse.gov/pcipb/cyberspace_strategy.pdf|Civilian General Orders], please memorize them. "Questions" will be asked at safety checkpoints. |
|
Post #85,451
3/4/03 10:00:24 AM
|
Yes, he can...
If he logs onto another similar machine, he has the same problem. I thought that the DHCP server assigned the machine an address, not a user. The other machine that he logs into will have the same IP address that it had when the previous user logged in (at least I think so. Gotta check.)
If he logs into his machine domain, as opposed to the corporate domain, everything is just ducky. He can still hook to networked drives with expected performance.
The only difference I can see is that the corporate domain has Active Directory and whatever else corporate IT does to bugger the lives of simple engineers... My ignorance of Active Directory is rather complete, so I really have no clue as to what this could be doing to his machine.
It appears to me that the problem lies in the profile that IT hung on him. We have ruled out hardware differences, driver differences, bios settings, network cables, and local hubs. If this is an IT problem, he is in deep used food. First, our IT department could screw up a sunny day and it is dangerous to get them involved. Second, they are on the other side of the country, so it is not exactly hands on. Oh well...
Thanks, Hugh
|
Post #85,454
3/4/03 10:10:10 AM
|
his profile sounds cacked(WAG)
if his profile has him attaching a network device or share that doesnt exist everytime you use a network resource refresh like explorer it wastes a lot of time trying to find something that isnt there? Maybe? thanx, bill
will work for cash and other incentives [link|http://home.tampabay.rr.com/boxley/resume/Resume.html|skill set]
questions, help? [link|mailto:pappas@catholic.org|email pappas at catholic.org] \ufffdOmni Gaul Delenda est!\ufffd Ceasar
|
Post #85,460
3/4/03 10:21:22 AM
|
Hey BOx, stop? Talking like a girl? (And Norm?) Please?
|
Post #85,527
3/4/03 1:58:28 PM
|
Now how did I get into this conversation? (new thread)
Created as new thread #85526 titled [link|/forums/render/content/show?contentid=85526|Now how did I get into this conversation?]
[link|http://pub75.ezboard.com/bantiiwethey| New and improved, Chicken Delvits!]
|
Post #85,466
3/4/03 10:26:35 AM
|
Research direction...
Try looking at Distributed File Sharing, Distributed Link Tracking, Distributed Distribution Distributing...bah. Sorry. I just turn all those stupid services off by default.
Many fears are born of stupidity and ignorance - Which you should be feeding with rumour and generalisation. BOfH, 2002 "Episode" 10
|
Post #85,484
3/4/03 11:59:09 AM
|
Roaming profile?
If so, get it nuked and start over.
Otherwise he should quit, because he's bad juju around computers.
Peter [link|http://www.debian.org|Shill For Hire] [link|http://www.kuro5hin.org|There is no K5 Cabal] [link|http://guildenstern.dyndns.org|Blog]
|
Post #85,502
3/4/03 12:31:39 PM
|
What is a roaming profile in a wired context?
I know what that is in wireless, but what is that for a wired system? Is that something he could get at locally, or would IT have to do it?
Thanks, Hugh
|
Post #85,508
3/4/03 12:56:34 PM
|
Profiles been around for a while.
Basically, they took off in the Windows line with NT server. The idea was to take your user specifics, preferences, user registry hive, that sort of thing, and dump them on the server so that you'd have access to your personal set of ugly window colors and ugly, unreadable fonts on titlebars and controls no matter which workstation you happened to be on. They are loaded at logon from the server since, what, Win98? Maybe earlier--can't remember back that far.
Many fears are born of stupidity and ignorance - Which you should be feeding with rumour and generalisation. BOfH, 2002 "Episode" 10
|
Post #85,509
3/4/03 12:59:47 PM
|
Stashed on a server
A roaming profile in this context is one stored on a server. Each time your user logs in to a PC he has never used before, a copy of the profile is installed on it. In reverse, all changes to the profile are replicated to the server copy so they later reflect on other PCs as soon as the user logs in.
Local profiles are just that: they only exist on one client PC and are not replicated to other PCs even if the same user is able to log on there (so you get the default nearly empty desktop)
A roaming profile is normally defined by IT as you need to be able to set rights on the server and to change the domain account.
|
Post #85,513
3/4/03 1:06:17 PM
|
Got it.
I'll check when I get a chance. I'm pretty sure that IT pushes a certain amount of garbage on us and screws with some permissions. It's worth checking.
Thanks, Hugh
|
Post #85,512
3/4/03 1:06:04 PM
|
If you are really on a hub: sniff the packets
(and if you are allowed to...) hang a packet sniffer off it and see what goes across. If it is network related, this should give you a quick and definite answer. Ethereal is a wonderful toy
|
Post #85,517
3/4/03 1:21:59 PM
|
Sniffer is not an option
We are not allowed to use them. Probably not worth getting fired over. I'll pass along the suggestions, and I imagine that he will file for help from IT.
Thanks, Hugh
|