That will never be admitted.

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by bepatient

2/26/03 1:31:12 PM

2/27/03 7:06:10 AM

That will never be admitted.

Because to do so would be an admission that his "accepted" and [link|http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/content/show?contentid=84217|now admired] technique of "discussion" is dishonest at best.

It is not "debate". It is semantic gamesmanship with deliberate use of emotionally charged "additions" to stated positions...and then dismissal of entire positions over "debates" about the meaning of one unrelated word.

Lather, rinse, repeat. (again and again)

Hate to say I told you so.

And now come the insults and the introduction of fabricated positions.

Oh yeah...forgot about the...trying to prove a completely unrelated point by playing semantic games with a completely idiotic assertion. How could I forget that?

You were born...and so you're free...so Happy Birthday! _{Laurie Anderson}

[link|mailto:bepatient@aol.com|BePatient]

Edited by bepatient Feb. 26, 2003, 02:50:28 PM EST

Edited by bepatient Feb. 26, 2003, 03:19:10 PM EST

Edited by bepatient Feb. 26, 2003, 04:21:24 PM EST

Edited by bepatient Feb. 27, 2003, 07:06:10 AM EST

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US-UK-Spanish draft of new UN SC resolution. - (Another Scott) - (103) - Feb. 24, 2003, 06:16:39 PM EST

So it isn't about terrorism now? - (Brandioch) - (95) - Feb. 24, 2003, 06:36:16 PM EST

Call it.. the Sophistry of Naked Power-speak (?) -NT - (Ashton) - (5) - Feb. 24, 2003, 07:37:04 PM EST

Yup Artful Dodging - bootstrapping on new accusations on way - (dmarker) - (4) - Feb. 24, 2003, 10:47:44 PM EST

Is it just me? - (Silverlock) - (3) - Feb. 24, 2003, 09:20:12 PM EST

Fair comment - thought everyone knew the tactic - my error - (dmarker) - (2) - Feb. 24, 2003, 10:43:45 PM EST

I've noticed lately that you seem... - (Silverlock) - (1) - Feb. 24, 2003, 11:11:23 PM EST

Do have a lot on my plate - pack for big move - (dmarker) - Feb. 25, 2003, 02:10:59 AM EST

They have been reading your posts so kept it simple -NT - (boxley) - (88) - Feb. 24, 2003, 09:01:42 PM EST

Awww, that's cute. - (Brandioch) - (87) - Feb. 24, 2003, 09:55:34 PM EST

what position, I want a war that ends up with - (boxley) - (86) - Feb. 24, 2003, 10:16:07 PM EST

I wish that didn't make sense -NT - (Silverlock) - (3) - Feb. 24, 2003, 10:43:36 PM EST

:-) -NT - (boxley) - (2) - Feb. 24, 2003, 10:44:32 PM EST

You know this doesn't mean I won't..... - (Silverlock) - (1) - Feb. 24, 2003, 11:15:45 PM EST

No prob, enjoy the discourse -NT - (boxley) - Feb. 25, 2003, 09:07:59 AM EST

That is a position. - (Brandioch) - (81) - Feb. 25, 2003, 12:14:23 AM EST

why -NT - (boxley) - (80) - Feb. 25, 2003, 09:08:44 AM EST

If you have to ask, you'll never understand. -NT - (Brandioch) - (79) - Feb. 25, 2003, 09:15:31 AM EST

Actually I do understand, you are the antipost - (boxley) - (78) - Feb. 25, 2003, 11:40:44 AM EST

I'll cover this from the beginning. - (Brandioch) - (76) - Feb. 25, 2003, 01:00:34 PM EST

I have proved it many times - (boxley) - (75) - Feb. 25, 2003, 02:00:11 PM EST

I posted links to support my position. - (Brandioch) - (71) - Feb. 25, 2003, 04:10:12 PM EST

Sh*t you having a bad day? usually your stuff is better - (boxley) - (70) - Feb. 25, 2003, 04:53:42 PM EST

Every has an opinion. - (Brandioch) - (69) - Feb. 25, 2003, 05:44:05 PM EST

so you state that a missile and a plane is identical? - (boxley) - (68) - Feb. 25, 2003, 05:55:06 PM EST

Both used to intentionally destroy a building and kill the - (Brandioch) - (67) - Feb. 25, 2003, 06:47:32 PM EST

Is that your final definition so we can start? -NT - (boxley) - (66) - Feb. 25, 2003, 07:58:25 PM EST

Yes. As I have stated before. - (Brandioch) - (65) - Feb. 25, 2003, 11:15:19 PM EST

you changed it again, find one and stick to it please -NT - (boxley) - (64) - Feb. 25, 2003, 11:40:43 PM EST

Again. - (Brandioch) - (63) - Feb. 25, 2003, 11:51:00 PM EST

Once, twice, three times. - (Brandioch) - (62) - Feb. 25, 2003, 11:51:41 PM EST

Very good, stable define, lets begin - (boxley) - (61) - Feb. 26, 2003, 08:45:05 AM EST

You make it too easy. - (Brandioch) - (60) - Feb. 26, 2003, 10:27:45 AM EST

so the drunk killing a kid=terrorism/military - (boxley) - (59) - Feb. 26, 2003, 10:41:21 AM EST

How many differing.... - (bepatient) - Feb. 26, 2003, 11:09:18 AM EST

Your logic fails. - (Brandioch) - (57) - Feb. 26, 2003, 12:29:24 PM EST

You have lost - (drewk) - (33) - Feb. 26, 2003, 01:12:30 PM EST

That will never be admitted. - (bepatient) - Feb. 27, 2003, 07:06:10 AM EST

I will clarify that. - (Brandioch) - (31) - Feb. 26, 2003, 02:16:35 PM EST

further clarification - (boxley) - (30) - Feb. 26, 2003, 02:25:22 PM EST

That is the standard, Boxley, admission of defeat. - (Brandioch) - (29) - Feb. 26, 2003, 02:30:34 PM EST

So you admit defeat? - (boxley) - (28) - Feb. 26, 2003, 02:42:16 PM EST

How many children have died because of my views? - (Brandioch) - (27) - Feb. 26, 2003, 02:50:53 PM EST

how many Iraqi kids have died because of his policies? - (boxley) - (26) - Feb. 26, 2003, 02:59:31 PM EST

Marlowe, give the keyboard back to boxley. - (Brandioch) - (25) - Feb. 26, 2003, 04:06:50 PM EST

So no children have died because of his policies lately? - (boxley) - (24) - Feb. 26, 2003, 04:49:20 PM EST

Nice try. :) - (Brandioch) - (23) - Feb. 26, 2003, 06:17:07 PM EST

So when did his policies stop killing children? - (boxley) - (22) - Feb. 26, 2003, 06:20:21 PM EST

When he stopped bombing the Kurds. - (Brandioch) - (21) - Feb. 26, 2003, 06:40:12 PM EST

Is that your final answer? Be very sure -NT - (boxley) - (12) - Feb. 26, 2003, 09:06:58 PM EST

Whee! Let's do it again! - (Brandioch) - (11) - Feb. 26, 2003, 10:23:39 PM EST

just like I thought no balls - (boxley) - (10) - Feb. 26, 2003, 10:59:26 PM EST

Here's a link to your other post. - (Brandioch) - (9) - Feb. 26, 2003, 11:06:30 PM EST

whats the Magic man version of godwin? - (boxley) - (8) - Feb. 26, 2003, 11:27:04 PM EST

Maybe you missed the link to your post. - (Brandioch) - (7) - Feb. 27, 2003, 12:16:53 AM EST

Links, prooves and circular references - (boxley) - (6) - Feb. 27, 2003, 08:53:04 AM EST

Not to mention... - (bepatient) - Feb. 27, 2003, 12:01:30 PM EST

Awwww. Your feelings are hurt, aren't they? - (Brandioch) - (4) - Feb. 27, 2003, 02:33:08 PM EST

would I have to decontaminate it first? :-) -NT - (boxley) - (3) - Feb. 27, 2003, 04:12:49 PM EST

Would someone mind branching this shite off in a new thread? - (admin) - (2) - Feb. 27, 2003, 04:19:39 PM EST

oops forgot, Im done -NT - (boxley) - Feb. 27, 2003, 04:25:23 PM EST

When did we go back to 1-thread? (new thread) - (Another Scott) - Feb. 27, 2003, 05:04:07 PM EST

Do you really believe that? - (Another Scott) - (7) - Feb. 26, 2003, 10:16:45 PM EST

Hang on. - (Brandioch) - (4) - Feb. 26, 2003, 10:27:06 PM EST

Not very effectively. - (Another Scott) - (2) - Feb. 26, 2003, 10:40:42 PM EST

This has nothing to do with winning -NT - (boxley) - Feb. 26, 2003, 11:03:40 PM EST

You are wise beyond your years. - (Brandioch) - Feb. 26, 2003, 11:26:12 PM EST

so you want to pick a date from 2002? -NT - (boxley) - Feb. 26, 2003, 11:04:24 PM EST

dont fsck my setups please :-) -NT - (boxley) - (1) - Feb. 26, 2003, 11:02:11 PM EST

Hey, I waited over an hour. Sorry. Carry on... :-) -NT - (Another Scott) - Feb. 26, 2003, 11:07:43 PM EST

heh, - (boxley) - (22) - Feb. 26, 2003, 02:39:25 PM EST

Game, set and match. - (Brandioch) - (21) - Feb. 26, 2003, 02:58:57 PM EST

not hardly, me pointing out the falacy of your logic - (boxley) - (20) - Feb. 26, 2003, 03:02:13 PM EST

Here's a link to your post. - (Brandioch) - (19) - Feb. 26, 2003, 04:01:59 PM EST

your logic not mine -NT - (boxley) - (18) - Feb. 26, 2003, 04:46:24 PM EST

"Can't we play something else?" - (Another Scott) - Feb. 26, 2003, 05:00:05 PM EST

Provide a link to my post. Here's a link to your's. - (Brandioch) - (16) - Feb. 26, 2003, 05:48:39 PM EST

here is a link to yours - (boxley) - (15) - Feb. 26, 2003, 06:12:36 PM EST

From that link your posted. Even from that block you posted. - (Brandioch) - (14) - Feb. 26, 2003, 06:23:18 PM EST

Your logic bomb repeating in my post - (boxley) - (13) - Feb. 26, 2003, 06:25:34 PM EST

My claim. You said I was wrong. Then you said I was right. - (Brandioch) - (12) - Feb. 26, 2003, 06:44:15 PM EST

your claim matches BP's accusations - (boxley) - (11) - Feb. 26, 2003, 09:11:31 PM EST

Here's a link to your post and the quote from there. - (Brandioch) - (10) - Feb. 26, 2003, 10:12:06 PM EST

you were wrong in one post, which one? - (boxley) - (9) - Feb. 26, 2003, 11:23:34 PM EST

Eeek! A ferocious strawman! - (Brandioch) - (8) - Feb. 27, 2003, 12:14:40 AM EST

Box...this ass is playing a game... - (bepatient) - (2) - Feb. 27, 2003, 07:18:35 AM EST

yabbut Im not bored yet :-) -NT - (boxley) - (1) - Feb. 27, 2003, 08:54:38 AM EST

Oh. Ok. -NT - (bepatient) - Feb. 27, 2003, 11:54:22 AM EST

so you total agree with my position, thank you -NT - (boxley) - (4) - Feb. 27, 2003, 08:56:17 AM EST

Eeeek! It's Son of Strawman! - (Brandioch) - (3) - Feb. 27, 2003, 02:30:38 PM EST

I claimed for your logic to work - (boxley) - (2) - Feb. 27, 2003, 04:15:37 PM EST

Here's a link to your post. - (Brandioch) - (1) - Feb. 27, 2003, 05:32:09 PM EST

See branch request above. -NT - (admin) - Feb. 27, 2003, 05:39:44 PM EST

And here's a link to one of your lies. - (Brandioch) - (2) - Feb. 25, 2003, 04:15:20 PM EST

thank you for proving my point - (boxley) - (1) - Feb. 25, 2003, 04:56:02 PM EST

Try that one again. - (Brandioch) - Feb. 25, 2003, 04:58:50 PM EST

ICLRPD (new thread) - (Another Scott) - Feb. 25, 2003, 01:13:41 PM EST

No need to say any more - (JayMehaffey) - (3) - Feb. 24, 2003, 09:27:11 PM EST

No problem, let them put the men in the field -NT - (boxley) - Feb. 24, 2003, 09:34:30 PM EST

Instant veto. -NT - (Brandioch) - Feb. 24, 2003, 10:09:23 PM EST

Love. It. but.. not in the Disneyland World of 02, I think. -NT - (Ashton) - Feb. 24, 2003, 10:56:04 PM EST

Well now. - (bepatient) - (2) - Feb. 24, 2003, 11:57:16 PM EST

and a paragraph on the back one explaining what each one was - (tuberculosis) - (1) - Feb. 25, 2003, 02:05:05 AM EST

And creatin a nuisance :) -NT - (bepatient) - Feb. 25, 2003, 02:33:42 AM EST

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